Federal lawmakers seek to deregulate gun silencers

You cannot speak about the hypothetical danger posed by fully-automatic firearms, when such a firearm was not used in the cited incident. It is intellectually dishonest, as well as disingenuous to attempt to do such.

 

No. My post was perfectly clear.

 

Lol, the firearm used was fully automatic. Whether it was registered with the ATF, or illegally modified is irrelevant to the fact full autos are inherently more dangerous.

 

Oh ye of little faith in your benevolent and all-merciful political overlords.

 

Good.
Governments are uniquely and inherently much more dangerous

 

Then actually show such. Present irrefutable, undeniable evidence that proves conclusively, beyond reasonable doubt, that the firearm utilized as indeed fully-automatic.

The supposed "more dangerous" standard compared to semi-automatic firearms, is marginal at best. Only seven more individuals died in this incident than the Pulse nightclub shooting. Comparatively speaking, when body counts are compared, fully-automatic firearms are slightly over one percent more dangerous than semi-automatic firearms.

 

Good, they're supposed to be dangerous.
Government is much more dangerous to the average citizen

 

Have you been under a rock the last 18 hours?

No, it’s quite demonstrable.

 

All that is known, is that uneducated individuals are making blind speculation about what took place. No one knows for certain what type of firearm was used, or if it had been modified in any manner. There is quite literally nothing that is known. The media is too busy talking about how the perpetrator showed no indications of being a problematic individual, to even begin revealing what firearms were used, or what was present at the scene.

Except for the fact that it is not. The only thing that is demonstrated, is a difference of seven causalities. Such does not demonstrate anything, except for the fact that supposed fully-automatic firearms are only a marginal percentage more dangerous than semi-automatic firearms.

 

So you have in fact been under a rock. Just listen to any number of actual video footage and you can hear the full auto rate of fire.

Lol, stop it. You know full well fullnautos are inherently more dangerous.

 

What is being heard is completely indistinguishable from what is heard in the following videos.

Then pray tell why is the number of dead in this incident, barely higher than the number of dead at the Pulse night club shooting?

 

Reports came in that the weapons were illegally modified.

Irrelevant. Full autos are inherently more dangerous.

 

No.
They are not.

 

Reports made by whom? Cite them. Show that this is indeed the case, and that they were not normal semi-automatic firearms being used.

Perhaps in hypothetical matters. But not in real world terms.

 

They demonstrably are.

 

Exactly how big is that rock you are under?

Nope. In demonstrable terms.

 

There are no restrictions on a Black powder cannon from 1776, yet, depending on how it is loaded, you can kill an astonishing crowd of folks with that Antique single shot cannon.

Yet there is no move to ban them even by the staunchest gun control advocates.

 

The very fact that you are so stubbornly refusing to cite sources demonstrates that no information pertaining to exactly what happened is known.

Let us assume, for the sake of arguments, these as-of-yet uncited reports are indeed accurate, and the firearm used was somehow modified to allow it to be fired in a fully-automatic manner. If these reports are ultimately correct, such would mean continuous intellectual dishonesty has been demonstrated on the part of yourself, with the repeated statements of how it is physically impossible for a semi-automatic firearm to ever have the same rate of fire as a fully-automatic firearm. Apparently that is not the case anymore. That means the statement can never be made by yourself again, as these reports will simply be cited and demonstrate that the claim being made by yourself is false.

Either the reports are wrong, and the firearm was not modified in any way, or it is yourself that is wrong, and it is indeed possible for a semi-automatic firearm to achieve a rate of fire no different than a fully-automatic firearm. It is either one or the other, so which is it? Are you wrong, or are the reports wrong? Was it a machine gun, or was it not?

Seven victims. That is ultimately the difference between the effectiveness of a fully-automatic firearm, and a semi-automatic firearm.

 

If it was illegally modified, it is no longer semi auto. It is full auto.

No it isn’t. The difference is full autos are inherently more dangerous than semi autos.

 

You knew this was stupid when you posted it, I hope.

 

Except for the fact that it was semi-automatic to begin with, thus demonstrating that the rate of fire between a semi-automatic firearm, and a fully-automatic firearm, is not insormountable.

Once again, either the claim made by yourself is wrong, or these as-of-yet unreleased reports are wrong. Which is it?

And yet this supposed inherent danger cannot be demonstrated in practical terms.

 

Modifying it makes it full auto. It is no longer semi auto.

Of course it can. Much faster rate of fire coupled with inherent problems with accuracy.

 

Then there would appear to be no legitimate reason for true machine guns to be subjected to the level of regulation they presently are, if it is apparently possible for anyone to modify a semi-automatic firearm and turn it into a machine gun.

Pray tell where was this inherent lack of accuracy during the event?

 

That’s just silly.

Are you serious? Lol

 

Explain both the why, and the how. If it is possible for apparently anyone to take a semi-automatic firearm, and modify it in a manner that allows it to operate in a fully-automatic manner, the currently existing restrictions serve absolutely no purpose, and are devoid of a reason for even existing to begin with. Exactly what good is being achieved by them, if they are apparently so easily bypassed?

Quite serious. Where was the inherent lack of accuracy during the event?