Federal lawmakers seek to deregulate gun silencers

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  1. rahl

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    You know the why and how.



    Have you ever fired a full auto?
     
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    Indeed it is not known. If it is possible for apparently anyone to take a semi-automatic firearm, and modify it in a manner that allows it to operate in a fully-automatic manner, the currently existing restrictions serve absolutely no purpose, and are devoid of a reason for even existing to begin with. Exactly what good is being achieved by them, if they are apparently so easily bypassed?

    Such is not relevant to the discussion. Nor does it answer the question. Where was the inherent lack of accuracy during the event? Either cite such, or drop the statement for being devoid of actual fact.
     
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    We both know that it is.



    Of course it is. If you knew anything about firearms, particularly full autos, you would know they are less accurate.
     
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    The only thing that truly is known, is that there is a lack of coherent thought on the part of yourself. Nothing beyond unproven talking points has ever been presented by yourself, other than an apparent superiority complex in the form of believing that your word alone is all the proof that is needed in any given discussion, when such could not be further from the truth.

    Then there should be no problem, and thus no legitimate excuse on the part of yourself for not posting such evidence, to make it absolutely clear that such is indeed the case. So far nothing beyond your word has been seen, and your word alone is not evidence or proof of anything. Either demonstrate the actual evidence that was used in reaching this conclusion, or drop the argument on the basis of being devoid of actual and legitimate fact. It is not that hard of a concept.
     
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    And we both know this isn’t true.



    Apparently there is. You seem to know nothing about firearms, specifically full autos.
     
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    And pray tell how is such known by both parties? Are psychic powers possessed by yourself, that allow for the tapping into of minds from an unspecified part of the world, from one who may not actually be one but rather many?

    Then actually provide proof this time around. Stop blathering on incoherently about a supposed lack of inherent accuracy, when it is not possible to demonstrate where this lack of accuracy was during the Las Vegas event. Either demonstrate actual, legitimate proof that the concept is valid, or drop the argument on the basis of being devoid of actual and legitimate fact. It is not that hard of a concept.
     
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    Because I’m not an idiot.



    It’s ok to admit you don’t know anything about firearms, specifically full autos. Nobody will think any less of you.
     
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    I have.

    Obviously by your ignorance of both full auto and semiauto you likely are unfamiliar with firearms in general.
     
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    Obviously you are the one that knows very little about full auto since the current issue M-4 is three round burst, not full auto and most soldiers fire semiauto for greater effect.
     
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    I probably own more than you do. I was a purchasing and ATF compliance manager at a large shooting center in Ohio for 3 years. We were also a class 3 dealer. I’m quite certain I’ve handled and fired more full autos and semi autos than you have. I was also a certified glock armoror as well as an M&P armoror, though they are now expired.
     
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    Nobody is talking about semi auto or 3 round burst. I’m pointing out that full autos are inherently more dangerous, and less accurate than semi autos.
     
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    Pray tell where was such claimed?

    Then actually provide proof this time around. Stop blathering on incoherently about a supposed lack of inherent accuracy, when it is not possible to demonstrate where this lack of accuracy was during the Las Vegas event. Either demonstrate actual, legitimate proof that the concept is valid, or drop the argument on the basis of being devoid of actual and legitimate fact. It is not that hard of a concept.
     
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    And the key word is controlability not accuracy, it is harder to cobtrol a machine gun in sustained fire, short bursts are easier to control.

    The gun is still "accurate" just harder to control.

    Refference the original AR-10 promotional video......



    The Daddy of the M-16A1
     
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    Why are you so afraid to admit you don’t know anything about firearms?
     
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    Full auto is inherently less accurate.
     
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    Regardless of your blather, you are patently Antigun.
    Yes, I ran a gun store and had a manufacturers F.F.L. and did Military Armorer in a few foreign countries too.
    I lack no credentials or experience.

    You lack credibility due to your Anti Gun stance and your improper terminology.
     
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    No it is not.
    Epic fail.
     
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    I own guns, so by definition I’m not anti gun, lol.

    [QUOTE2Yes, I ran a gun store and had a manufacturers F.F.L. and did Military Armorer in a few foreign countries too.
    I lack no credentials or experience.

    You lack credibility due to your Anti Gun stance and your improper terminology.[/QUOTE]
    I am neither anti gun nor do I use incorrect terminology.
     
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    Of course it is.
     
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    I know a great deal about firearms, and am highly trained with them. I've never fired a full-auto that was intrinsically "less accurate" than a semi-auto. Rate of fire does not change intrinsic accuracy.
     
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    I always love to hear the rant of the Pro Gun
    Anti Gunner, first, they blather on about the usual standard Democrat Anti Gun platform.

    Then suddenly they are a CEO of a major firearms company or ammo factory with an arms length of credentials and diplomas.

    Or have owned a half million dollars of firearms...

    lol
     
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    "Fully automatic fire in a rifle just doesn’t make sense; it makes a whole lot of sense when used with tripod mounted machine-guns and fixed MGs on vehicles. That is where you get some incredibly accurate automatic fire out to tremendous distances."

    It is not the gun that is inherently innacurate, it is the mode of fire, that raises issues of controlability.

    Three round burst helps controlability as does firing in short bursts.
     
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    No ****, and last night what mode of fire was being utilized?
     
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    The reason full auto was so deadly last night was that the crowd was bunched. Every infantryman knows about spreading it out. Last night the targets were, obviously, not spread out.
     
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