Federal prosecutors file sentencing memo for ex-Trump lawyer Michael Cohen

Well said.

 

Here is the memo: https://sc.cnbcfm.com/applications/...2/07/e3e0f7e0-dfbb-4b14-a1cf-654b9935f9d5.pdf

I searched for both Putin and Russia, but got nothing.

 

Truer words have never been typed.... but why do you think a sentencing memo from the SDNY (that's the one you linked), who charged Cohen with Bank and Campaign stuff would mention Putin or Russia??

 

Cohen made a deal and still gets nearly 4 years in the big house....hahahaha! Cohen got screwed!

 

The Campaign finance violations, correct? Honestly, I don't even know why they call it a felony. It sounds so much like a misdemeanor. A political fund isn't necessarily the people's money(It's often mixed, some grassroots donations yes, but also we all know the lobbying/kickback money.) We could even say technically(and what Trump was trying to say) is that he was paying for it directly, but he didn't want to be associated with the payment itself.

The law might say that it's broken, but only on a technical level. If the money Trump took out was his own money, then what he did wrong was the designation of the campaign., But that was intentional because he didn't want anyone to know about banging the girl during the election.

Which honestly, is pretty stupid. Trump went further to cover this up than Russia-gate.

 

And most importantly, I'm not compelled to impeach Trump for his payments to Karen McDonald. To me, that's silly. You can deal with him in the legal system in 2020 for all I care, but the political consequences are substantially greater than Trump's legal existence. The Presidency cannot be sullied or reduced. It undermines the entire US operation to have an impeached POTUS, or one with confidence-trust issues.

 

Still no Russia-Trump collusion.

 

It comes up a bunch of times in the Mueller memo.

https://www.axios.com/michael-cohen...emo-d664b3a5-81ff-413a-ba3a-024d8cda1815.html

 

Credit for a solid post.... thanks for that.. been an uphill night...

The money for Stormy didn't come from Trump (Organization), until the repayment to Cohen started in 2017. It originally came from the famous Cohen Equity Line, which to my understanding is what makes it a crime. If it HAD come directly from Trump's personal account, or even his official campaign account (and reported as such), I don't think there would be legal implications. Political ones yes, but he has those on this issue regardless of how the payment was made. (SDNY Sentencing memo - Pages 13 and 14)

But when he had Cohen use his personal money to make the original payment, and again, for the stated purpose of influencing the election (I assume via Cohen, Pecker, and Weisselberg), it screams campaign finance violation. Should it be a felony?? It's not the worst thing in the world, but we can't have stuff like this happening in our elections. Where could it go from there??

And to me, the ultimate irony of the cover up is that, at least in the Stormy case, the payment was made AFTER the Billy Bush tape. I mean, did Trump think the Stormy story was going to be WORSE than the p*ssy tape?? One time consensual sex 10 years earlier?? I don't think it would have, but maybe he did.... That's why I've always wondered if there could be something more to the Stormy story than we've heard... I know he's sort of a slickster, but I always wondered what Avenatti had on his safe DVD, or was it a bluff??

Anyhoo, regardless of the spin from both sides, I think this is worrisome news for Trump, if not now, then after he's out of office..

Cheers

 

I think I’ll grow old and die waiting

 

Fair enough, but assume everything alleged today is 100% true with evidence and witnesses... Trump told Cohen (and Pecker) to pay off these broads so nobody finds out and I can become President (use his voice to say that in your head).

Stone cold lock case.

I hate to be Mr. Whataboutism, but is that better than/worse than/equal to what they got Clinton for in 1998??

 

For me, there's two distinct characters: President Donald Trump. And Donald Trump. I don't care what happens to Donald Trump, per se. If he committed crimes, he should be persecuted for those. But said persecution should happen when he's no longer in office. For the exact same reason as Hillary Clinton stated in the third presidential debate: That we are not a junta country, we don't have political persecutions. Now if a political person committed a crime, that's one thing. But a persecution for the specific purpose of removing the guy to me, defeats the justice system.

We've had unpopular presidents before, and we've survived unpopular presidents before. But IMO, Gerald Ford made the right decision when he pardoned Richard Nixon. That's not to say that Trump should be pardoned(or would be), but it is to say that it's preferable for the country if Trump loses the Republican primary in 2020 and therefore has to leave office when his term ends on January 2021.

Hell, if he loses the primary and still tries to seize power illegally, THERE is your impeachment remedy and you won't hear a complaint from me.

320 million Americans> One Donald Trump. I'm not going to risk a political contingency for ONE individual, despite how many dislike him. The nation's more important. Before becoming POTUS, the Left looked at him as a troll. I suggest to continue looking at him like a troll, one that's temporarily bigger than the others. But he's still a troll.

Republicans did it with Obama, it should be easy to do with Trump.

 

The whole Cohen and Manafort thing have no business with an OSC, they should be in the hand of career investigators, white collar crime investigators. Investigate and any crimes be done with it. Mueller is desperately trying to find a crime to attach to Trump to try and overturn the election.

 

Why is Mueller, a special counsel assigned to investigate Russian collusion even investigating Cohen?

 

You mean trumps personal lawyer who was personally involved in negotiating trump tower Moscow? Yah why would anyone think he has any insight into the campaigns dealings with Russia lol
Did I mention he was also involved in RNC finances? The same party Russia wanted to infiltrate via the NRA?

 

Yet he let Flynn off with no time...I guess Flynn must have given up the dirt?

 

I have all the time in the world to wait for Trump (and his Crime Family) to twist slowly in the wind.

 

'Cohen did not follow up with this invitation'. That is a pretty significant sentence, isn't it?

 

Exactly now think about that. The collusion is the entire deep state has decided to destroy anyone around Trump hoping some of it rubs off on him.

 

Yes. He didn't follow up with that Russian because he was already working with other Russians.

The Trump campaign had too many Russian connections to handle.

 

And once again even the leftists own propaganda machine. Still comes up with no Trump Russian collusion. But I like the leftness all talking with themselves like it was discovered. Good popcorn material. Big bag.....as you know they will go on and on and on and still come up with nothing.

 

Well, that was before the Stormy/MacDougal stories came out, just this year... And there was absolutely some rubbing going on with those stories....

I'd agree with you if Mueller was actively pursuing these angles, but he's not.... he brilliantly farmed them out to SDNY

But Trump is knee deep in collusion as well... you know it and I know it... Just not made public yet...

 

You guess. LMAO.....that's not surprising.

 

The collusion in the deep state is front and center for all to see. Trump Russia collusion is fading into the rear view mirror of history and conspiracy theories that never panned out.

 

So, It Looks Like Michael Cohen Really Didn't Stab Trump In the Back (But He Could Have)….


Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen could be spending the next few years in jail. The sentencing memo from the Russian investigation headed by Special Counsel Robert Mueller has recommended that Cohen spend the next four years in jail for the eight charges he’s plead guilty to. It also suggests that Cohen was not as cooperative as originally blasted out there by the news media (via WaPo) [emphasis mine]:

“He seeks extraordinary leniency — a sentence of no jail time — based principally on his rose-colored view of the seriousness of the crimes; his claims to a sympathetic personal history; and his provision of certain information to law enforcement,” prosecutors wrote in their filing. “But the crimes committed by Cohen were more serious than his submission allows and were marked by a pattern of deception that permeated his professional life.”

The filing also suggests Cohen’s cooperation with law enforcement was not so significant to the investigations swirling around the president.....snip~

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...t-stab-trump-in-the-back-but-he-coul-n2537175


But but but.....Mueller.