Florida passed new gun laws

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    oh **** off with your name calling.

    by your logic anyone who doesn't own an AK is an "enemy of the Constitution".

    you guys make me laugh
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    he was firing blanks.

    either way, most human beings can't do this.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    I thought you owned a 10/22? You can get 30 round magazines for them, and they don't overheat in 30 rounds.
     
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    No, that's not my logic. That's your misinterpretation of everything we post.

    If you feel that we can simply delay due process for any length of time to enable legal confiscation of firearms, that makes you an enemy of due process, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    He is. I voted against him twice for that reason (among others).
     
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    No, those were "shots on a target". Perhaps not, but how fast do they need to be? Ever hear of a New York reload?
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong response.
    1. Miculek does not fire blanks. He puts shots accurately on target and there are hundreds of videos of him doing just that.
    2. Yes, he is superhuman but let's assume he is 10 times faster than a committed killer. Are you happy he didn't need a large capacity magazine to do the damage a revolver can do?
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  8. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no, in NY you can only have 10-round magazines.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    when did I say Due Process can be delayed?

    I said all gun confiscations or loss of gun rights should be eligible for immediate legal appeal.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    No, the 5th (and 14th) amendment(s) says that the due process has to occur before the seizure or loss of rights.

    It's written in plain English:
     
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    Well, in the free part of the U.S. you can get 30+ round magazines. I've never heard of a 10/22 overheating after shooting a few of those.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You've clearly never read the Bill of Rights:

    4th Am= no arrest or seizure of property without a warrant

    5th Am= no compulsion to testify against yourself or trial without indictment

    6th Am=right to speedy & publi trial



    nothing about being able to appeal arrests or property seizures before the actions take place.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Due process has to occur before the loss of rights or property.
    Emphasis added:
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/11/16999466/what-is-due-process-trump
     
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    More BS.
    Confiscations, loss of gun rights, immediate legal appeal?

    How long did it take for those who had their guns illegally confiscated during Hurricane Katrina to be returned rusted and unusable due to being stored in a tin warehouse?

    Do you hate guns or is it just the independent people that own them?
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Love the way you skip the relevant part of the 5th amendment: Here's the entire 5th amendment with the relevant part bolded.

    Amendment V
    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
     
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    "immediate".
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so you have the right to appeal your arrest before the arrest takes place?

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    no, you are arrested first, then you appeal.


    "sir, you are being placed under arrest for suspicion of murder"

    "sorry officer but I don't feel like being arrested, I'd like to appeal the arrest warrant in court first and then if I lose the appeal you can arrest me, but not if I appeal again to the Federal appeals court and then the US Supreme Court".

    LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    And legally they can only be loaded with seven rounds of ammunition in the state of New York.

    Nikolas Cruz made use of ten round magazines, because the thirty round magazines were too big to be carried properly.
     
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    Only people who are verified citizens should be able to vote. Perhaps you should get that concept though your head.
     
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    You have forgotten about Ron's "claim" that he was an FBI Field Cheif.
     
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    BULL. Corrupted voting - illegal immigration, identity theft, etc. - hurts our society in the long run, and needs to be more effectively regulated through proper identification requirements.

    Owning a weapon for defense of yourself, your home, and your community is a constitutionally guaranteed right whether you like it or not.
     
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    The Constitution is the law of the land. If you don't like that fact, start the political movement to change it. You can't ignore the Constitution just because you find it inconvenient. Get THAT concept through your head!
     
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    No, he wasn't. He not only fired that fast but he put them all into a group the side of a fist.
     
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    what about making them at home? should it be legal? cuz its really easy.
     
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    Cocaine is illegal, they sell it everywhere.
    Making magazines illegal will not help.
     

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