Foreign Policy Disater followed by Disaster....

This is getting frightening....I can not think of a single important foreign policy issue that has not turned quickly into disaster and dung...

1. Libya
2. Benghazi (separate from Libya)
3. Egypt
4. Syria
5. Iran
6. Ukraine
7. The terrorist swap/Berghdal
8. and now the loss of Iraq...

Nothing is working and all involve the same mistakes

1. Imaginary success
2. Unrealistic versions on the facts on the ground
3. Leading from behind
4. Refusal to see problems until they are disasters
5. Dithering
6. Lying to Congress and the public
7. Ruling out the most important options publically
8. Confusing speaking with action (if the regime says it, it is true)

By the end of the month, the Regime might well have lost Iraq, and they are simply clueless about what to do.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...e-after-seizing-mosul-and-tikrit-9530899.html

The question....can we afford to allow the Regime to damage the nation for another two 1/2 years???

 

I was not aware Iraq was part of the US - could you point me in the direction of the agreement that was signed awarding Iraq statehood please

 

That appears to be a strawman, an argument I did not make???

 

Now I agree with most of your claims about foreign policies, but Iraq isn't Obama's fault. It's pretty to hard to ignore the guy who got us involved there in the first place.

 

Losing Iraq IS Obama's fault...how we got there is irrelevant or at the least a diversion from the reality, the barbarians are seizing the country and the regime is dithering.

 

I fail to see how any of the above are 'disasters' (sic). If by disaster you mean 'no Americans are being killed in a foreign country' then you do indeed have a point.

 

Unlike some I learned the lesson of WWII....dithering, appeasing and an overt refusal to act in the face a barbarism always leads to bigger wars and American deaths. I think we have been spoiled since the war into believing the tiny death counts in wars since then are the worst that can happen to us when there is nothing stopping American casualties from being in the millions if we fail to stop the savages before it is to late.

 

Not really, seeing as how Bush had what, 5 years in running the war?

 

Bush won the war and Obama has lost the peace....

 

Your exact words where "Now the loss of Iraq"

Lost by who?

 

So are you going to keep relying on talking points or are you going to go into substance? Because right now you have to explain why 5 years worth of winning resulted in an unstable democracy.

 

BoBo...he was in such a hurry to run away from the war that he did not provide Iraq with any ability to survive....

 

We did not provide a continuing force...there should have been tens of thousands of US forces in the country. Instead we did the same thing we do with education in the USA, we threw money at the corrupt Iraqi government. The professional officers we left in charge of the new military were fired and replaced by cronies who looted the military and who are now running away from the fight. meanwhile, less than a year ago, Biden was touting Iraq as a gigantic Obama success...

 

To top it all off, they think that blaming Bush will actually fix the problem somehow. Meanwhile, the children of foreigners are pouring over our border. This has all gotten very sick.

 

Let me get this straight, General Patton. Millions of Americans will become casualties if Obama doesn't...what, exactly? Declare war on Russia over blahblahblah in Ukraine? Send troops to Egypt/Libya/Iraq? Declare war ion Iran? Good luck with this visionary foreign policy. Psssst, look at the year on your calendar.

 

Different issue entirely - But maybe we could ask the person who started the war why there was no exit strategy.

 

I guess I should have added the invasion of illegals as another policy failure....

 

If Iran gets the bomb, as they will, then Obama's dithering will result in an eventual boom in the USA and that will kill or injure millions. Folk are so terrified of actual action and military force that they will bury their heads in the same until we have vast numbers of dead Americans here and then they will be apoplectic in blaming anyone but themselves.

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Victory was the exit strategy....not running away.

 

So in other words stay forever? Where the Iraq people asked for their opinion on this?

 

The current POTUS needs to put his grapes on the table and be a leader of a Nation, Yes Bush had his head up his ass but asking "What about who started it?" will not bring a solution to the table.

 

Gotta feel sorry for the next president. Talk about inheriting a mess... Obama inherited paradise compared to what he's leaving in his tracks. Not to mention the amt of blood on his hands.

 

The solution presented to the American people was to get the troops out. The American people voted for that solution. The reason I mention president Bush is the knowledge that when the war was initiated there was no clearly defined exit strategy. I am not talking about a plan that went south because conditions changed. Nobody had any idea how to exact the allied forces from three cornered fight

 

Well the words out Americans are evacuating from Iraq and Iraq asked Obama for air strikes against Al-Qaeda and Obama refused. If Iraq falls, the (*)(*)(*)(*)s going to hit the fan as to why Obama refused help.




The Wall Street Journal on Wednesday quoted senior U.S. officials as saying Iraq had signaled it would let the United States strike Al-Qaida militant targets in Iraq with manned aircraft or drones.

"We are not going to get into details of our diplomatic discussions but the government of Iraq has made clear that they welcome our support" against the militants, White House national security council spokeswoman Bernadette Meehan said on Wednesday.

"We have expedited shipments of military equipment since the beginning of the year, ramped up training of Iraqi Security Forces, and worked intensively to help Iraq implement a holistic approach to counter this terrorist threat," Meehan said in a statement. "Our assistance has been comprehensive, is continuing and will increase."

Sunni rebels from an Al-Qaida splinter group overran the Iraqi city of Tikrit on Wednesday and closed in on the biggest oil refinery in the country, making further gains in their rapid military advance against the Shi'ite-led government in Baghdad.

The threat to the Baiji refinery came after militants from the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant, or ISIL group, seized the northern city of Mosul, advancing their aim of creating a Sunni Caliphate straddling the border between Iraq and Syria.

The fall of Mosul, Iraq's second-biggest city, is a blow to attempts to defeat the militants, who have seized territory in Iraq over the past year following the withdrawal of U.S. forces.


http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.598331

 

Are they being asked for their opinion now as thousands are being murdered under the guise of Sharia law?

 

It seems just a few hours ago, Obama is rethinking helping Iraq with air strikes