Foreign Policy Disater followed by Disaster....

Sovereignty does not include a right to screw with us beyond a certain point with impunity...

I worry more about the noted isolationist chicken, for the results of their acts are always far worse...

 

Paid for with our blood and treasure. We are invested. Go figure. More to the point, however; Obama went into office bragging that he would get us out of Iraq in a way advantageous to our nation. So how is having Iraq fall to Al Qaeda (which Obama claimed to have defeated during the 2012 election) advantageous for the United States? Go ahead and 'splain it to people who do not worship the ground that Obama golfs over.

 

And how exactly is Iraq 'screwing with us beyond a certain point' ? Or how was China 'screwing with us beyond a certain point'? Or Libya? Iran? Ukraine? Or any other country that would justify military response? This also should be illuminating.

 

The common denominator would be that the same people/party are in charge, and have been for the last seven and a half years. In other words, they were in charge this year, last year, the year before that, the year before that, the year before that, the year before that year, and the year before that year.

 

...and the year before that year. All the way to this very day.

 

Lost by U.S Coalition/Western forces. Unless you think the savage violence over there is somehow democratic or a positive turn of events in the middle east.

 

You're not trying to say it's Bush's fault are you?

 

we were there for ten years, I would hardly call that running away

 

Countries have responsibilities to its citizens and to the rest of the world. Great countries have great responsibilities....Let me put this in terms the left would understand (and I have no idea of your politics)

The left seems to believe the government has both a duty and responsibility to regulate the everyday life of its citizens, for the citizens own good. This reaches to almost every single thing we as individuals can or want to do. While the left sees this as good and right, it is considered a faux-paux, somehow undignified, to apply the same logic to the worlds miscreants. They are to be free to kill and murder their citizens and neighbors with impunity and glee....after all, they are sovereign.

I figure national sovereignty goes only so far. When the neighborhood barbarian begins to train savages to operate on our patch, we have a responsibility to act.

Iran is working on the ultimate 'screw with us' device. It is our duty to stand in the way.

 

If it takes 100 years, or more.

 

I strongly - and I do mean STRONGLY - suggest you pressure your GOP Senator, House rep, or national HQ to campaign from now on on going back into Iraq with US troops to make sure no more WMDs are used on the American Sacred Heartland. I think you should encourage them to remind the American people of Iraq every chance they get. I'm pretty sure that strategy will sweep the Grumpy Old People back into the White House in 2016 despite the looming Hispanic Children Menace.

 

I do not want to spend our tax money on that or the lives of our soldiers, why should we supply them a permanent military for 100 years?

 

He lost nothing with Iraq. He removed the troops on the timetable Bush set up and in accordance with the wishes of the American public. If the Iraqis can't take care of themselves, tough (*)(*)(*)(*). Nobody cares what happens in that country anyway. Nobody except the right with their false rage.

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So, you wish us to invade that entire list of countries you provided?

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Yeah, I recall the "Mission Accomplished" sign. Is that when we won the war? Or was it just a little after that?

 

Sorry but that is not how the real world operates, especially not the US.

 

Because if we do not control the problem there we will confront it here...

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The real world operates as we allow it....that is the advantage and responsibility of the big guy on the block.

 

Does it really matter who is president?

The American foreign policy is decided by the Israel Lobby, not by the president.
The president has to obey this lobby, if he wants to be re-elected.

http://mearsheimer.uchicago.edu/pdfs/A0040.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_Realm

 

Hardly...

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ead-gets-way-control-north.html#ixzz34WuQyf9d

 

The real war didn't start until the major U.S. military operations were over. Beating the Iraqi military was easy. It's the insurgent movement that has cost us the most and that is responsible for the current events there.

What is happening in Iraq right now is what was going to happen when we left, no matter when that may have been. This was the inevitable outcome the minute Bush decided to go guns blazing into the country. The only thing that would have prevented this was major U.S. forces remaining in Iraq taking more and more casualties while the talking heads at home criticized Obama for those casualties. I'm no fan of Obama but this was a lose-lose situation and has been since the second it started. Trying to blame it all on him is simply partisan smoke.

 

Sorry but that is not how we deal with supposed allies, we re not their boss or dictator, even if you want to act like one.

 

Acting like the adult in the room is not the same thing as acting like a dictator..

 

Yeah right.

 

Meanwhile, BoBo is on TV advising one and all he will do nothing significant to confront the problem. The man is completely useless. This generations Jimmy Carter.

 

we can't afford to be IRAQ's personal military for 100 years.... there would not be a here to protect anymore if we did this

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what should he do... he is not the President of IRAQ.. our military is not IRAQ's lapdog, we do not have to go running at their beck and call


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Everyone needs lobbying, and singling out Israel isn't necessarily the truth.

 

No. I guess I should have wordered it better. It's not all of Obama's fault.