Former CIA director: Trump's news conference "nothing short of treasonous"

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  1. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    oh yeah, the man who jails and kills his political oppenents, whos forces shot down a commercial jet, to name a few, let alone the cyber warfare, is not threat.

    trump supporters are shameless.
     
  2. Liberty Monkey

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    100% lies

    why don't you kneel to show your patriotism and also could be quite profitable for you.
     
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    Thank you.

    If we are to take a consistent position on treason & putting the best interests of a foreign power ahead of the interests of the US, it should consistently be a severe punishment.

    For decades, American politicians have sacrificed thousands of US lives(1), Trillions of dollars & the good will of the Islamic world for a country that has repeatedly influenced our elections, deliberately massacred US G.I.s, firebombed American interests (Lavon Affair) & the US intelligence considers America's greatest espionage threat(2).

    Anyone who has followed America's Foreign Policies is used to watching US politicians violate US Law (i.e. the Symington Amendment) & grovel before the agents of a foreign government (i.e. AIPAC). It is only unusual when that foreign power is not Israel.

    Trump sacrificed America's best interests when he moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem yet was praised for doing so. Any politician who wants a long and stress free career knows that he or she must placate Israeli lobbies first(3) however, groveling before other international leaders is clearly off limits.

    Just as you are unlikely to hear any condemnation from America's infestation of "Israel Firsters" for political subservience to Israel, you are unlikely to hear any objection from the far Right for Trump's follies in dealing with Putin.



    (1) “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”
    AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003



    (2) "ISRAEL WON'T STOP SPYING ON THE US"
    http://www.newsweek.com/2014/05/16/israel-wont-stop-spying-us-249757.html


    EXCERPT "The Jewish state’s primary target: America’s industrial and technical secrets.

    “No other country close to the United States continues to cross the line on espionage like the Israelis do,” said a former congressional staffer who attended another classified briefing in late 2013, one of several in recent months given by officials from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the State Department, the FBI and the National Counterintelligence Directorate.

    The intelligence agencies didn’t go into specifics, the former aide said, but cited “industrial espionage—folks coming over here on trade missions or with Israeli companies working in collaboration with American companies, [or] intelligence operatives being run directly by the government, which I assume meant out of the [Israeli] Embassy.” CONTINUED



    (3) "US Congress Forced To Pledge Allegiance To Israel"
     
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    Why endorse that kind of ad hominem nonsense?
     
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    Your attack on Trump supports is just empty ad hominem nonsense. Your criticism of Putin is, of course, entirely legitimate.
     
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    Sure enough to say he is a real patriot compared to the RU puppet Trump. How about you?
     
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    Okay. Clinton and Obama lie like experts. Trump's lies are petulant and personalized. :roll:
    I suppose in your world the more accomplished liars are preferable.


    And it's like you want to pretend that Trump tells 5,000 lies for every single Obama lie. No comment needed for that bit of imaginary equivalence.

    So I guess you think I will believe your claim when you just make up some
    b.s. nonsense about what I think about Trump. It doesn't work like that.

    Step outside of yourself if possible
    and look around.
     
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    Trump is supported despite his sometime intemperate behavior. He acts in the best interests of this nation. Funny how much of the public approves.
     
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    How is engaging with Putin betraying his nation anymore than engaging with China or Saudi Arabia ?

    How do facebook ads which tell the Truth (as opposed to propaganda produced and disseminated on US citizens by our intelligence services and MSM) interfere/harm our democratic process.

    Quit drinking the state propaganda koolaid and use that thing between your ears.
     
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    Even funnier how much disapproves, or have you not noticed he's been underwater since day one of his election?
     
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    What's funnier is that he's ahead of Obama comparing the same time span into their presidencies. :roflol:
     
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    The FBI might have a mirror AFTER Hillary's vender mucked around in it. The FBI has nothing, because the DNC would not allow them to examine the servers, probably because they wanted to conceal that they rigged the primaries against Bernie. See, you guys lie and scheme your way from one corner to the other. Don't blame us for the fixes you keep finding yourself in.

    Now, because you tried to misapply a counterintelligence case to criminal case and an unconstitutional impeachment inquiry, you have brought criminal indictments in a counterintelligence case, and the position of the Federal Government, by law has to be the presumption of innocence of these indicted Russians, and how much more does the presumption apply to Trump and the rest of the campaign?
     
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    I did not say Putin was not a threat. And quit making stuff up "shot down a commercial jet" and pretending it has been proven.

    The US Gov't is a bigger threat to your cyber security than Putin ... by far.
    The US Gov't and MSM, is a bigger threat to your security and individual liberty and our democratic process .... by far.
     
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    Correct they are because they have annexed another nation's sovereign territory, they are supporting the Assad regime and committing war crimes with regularity in doing so, they are attacking adversaries with military cyber forces to disrupt and divide western nations, they are supporting Iran in their own nefarious foreign adventuring, they are supporting North Korea (despite paying lip service to sanctions), they are targetting individual american citizens, they murder journalists, they murder political opposition, and on and on.

    Nope, hating russia is only because of trump hate. Brilliant friggin' conclusion ya came to there. Got any more?
     
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    ah hem.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/24/world/europe/russia-malaysia-airlines-ukraine-missile.html

    hey, you can go live in russia if you think putin is ok, reality says different.
     
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    Deflection^^ with fake news^^
     
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    More lies because Trump stumbled.^^
     
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    His only loyalty is to money...He'd screw anyone over it.
     
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    Yet there are more democrats than republicans. But by all means believe your own bullshit. Facts aren't all that important to you when dealing with the evil other partisans.
     
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    What a nonsensical non sequitur (it does not follow). It does not follow that because we sell missiles to Saudi Arabia -- that we are "responsible" for the crimes against humanity of Saudi Arabia on account of El Saud misusing those missiles.

    Get a valid argument.
     
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    oh yeah, how about putin supporting assad who has attacked his own people using chemicals. must be good to support those people.
     
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    Obama has a message for you. He said the eighties called. They want their foreign policy back.
     
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    Even your wit comes in bumpersticker form.
     
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    Fascinating, a news conference is absolute proof of treason.
     

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