FOSSILS prove that Christianity/Islam/Judaism are just fairy tales for adults

SHOW us where he's wrong, or CupidDave will have bested you.
I've never agreed with CupidDave on anything, but he is at least attempting to present facts, and I'm not sure that you are.

 

1) The reason the poor are with us today is because they must qualify as such in order to get the money available from the government programs.

The poverty level determines whether or not they are poor enough to get a check.
Bush's new book, The 4% Solution, says there are 69 Federal Programs which will give a $7700 check to each member of a family of four if they qualify.
That is over $32,000 clear plus food stamps and medicare if you will only remain a poor single mother.



2) Killing the single mother solves nothing financilally because the kids must then be care for anyway.
And, the kids ae even more expensive because they by and large become serious scial problems.
70% of all violent crime in Ameica involves a person raised by a single mother.

 

No he aint presenting facts. He presents claims that he makes up off the top of his head. Me calling his bull(*)(*)(*)(*) aint him besting anything. The burden of proof aint mine, but if his bull(*)(*)(*)(*) aint self evident to you, let me help you out.

"The reason for abortion is Economics."

No, the reason for abortion is a private matter of an unwanted pregnancy. Does it affect the economy? Sure. But that aint the reason women get abortions.


"America is now killing only half of the babies that qualify for Welfare."

"America" aint killing any babies. Women, on their own initiative, are aborting fetuses on a case by case basis. Aint no one trying to remedy the welfare problem by advocating abortion. And his ratio for abortions are half of babies that qualify for welfare is made up, so he is just talking out his ass here.

"Welfare now cost as much as the Military budget, or $600 Billion dollars every year, expected to rise to $10.5 Trillion by 2022."

The porion of the budget dedicated for welfare programs is 12% The military portion is 25%, so another lie. And the "expected to rise to 10.5 trillion by 2022"? Completely made up.


"If Abortion were mandtory for unmarried girls who had no means of support the nation would immediatel become fiscally sound."


Do I really need to go through this one? Unmarried women aint automatically wards of the state and can and often do provide for themselves. They also aint the reason we are in debt. And, personally, I hope someone randomly walks up and punches this (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) in the face for even suggesting mandatory abortions.

Am I still bested? Or is it obvious now that cupid dave is 100% full of (*)(*)(*)(*)?

 

I hate people who attack religion as if everyone who is religious is a close-minded literalist. The ancient texts have been mistranslated and misconstrued over time. Some time back I listened to a Rabbi talk about how the original texts do not say that God created the world in 7-days, but rather the word used is more closely translated to "age" or "period of time".

 

You still aint read that book, obviously.

 

If the tests have been 'mistranslated and misconstrued over time', then why believe any of it?

 

Pastors and rabbis say a lot of things. Don't make it so.

Even though the word used can mean a period of time, when the word for day is deliniated, it only means a 24 hour period.


Must have been a new wave type teacher who taught himself. Or maybe you heard it on the internet by someone claiming to be a rabbi. That teaching goes against the linguistic rules of Hebrew.

 

So, what do you say about Uranium-Lead radiometry, which is said to be reliable for age ranges between 1 million and 4 billion years? Is it not a useful standard?

Hang on... we're certain that its billions of years old... but at the same time it's simply not true that it's 15 billion?

I'm not sure what to make of that. Are you saying that the earth is billions of years old, but just not tens of billions of years old?

 

Just because other men have twisted the words doesn't the mean the original text is wrong. One must go back at look at the originals.

Have you not read my rants on Lucifer not being Satan?

Well the guy was a theological historian and made some great points.

Mistranslation is a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

He has already been corrected on this.

 

Aint they all, though?

 

Not all. By the State of Idaho I am considered a clergyman, but I am no way an expert on ancient Sacred Texts. My historical focus is not linguistic or etymological. I prefer researching events from around AD 300 to around the 15th/16th century. I love to research Dark Ages Europe, but I'm expanding into other countries during the same period as it wasn't so dark globally.

 

Why would I listen to your rants about a fictitious character?

And who speaks the language of the originals?

 

True...

The word used is yowm, it can mean a day or ANY duration of time that fits.

The strange desciption of a "day" that starts with the evening and ends in the morning seems to imply that the idea being expressed as seven "days" is already a little unusual.
It hints that we ought reserve our opinion as to what is being told to us.

Since even in this Age, eras of time nas long as a billion years is hard to fathom, the bible could never had stated the facts we have discovered today in those times.

Day = yowm in the Hebrew:

 

The interpretation of wha the Bible is saying differs with the people who present btheir particuakr Book Report and then promote their view and perpective of what the scriotures are saying.

We can see the many different "takes" and various "book reports" by learning about the differences in the doctrines and teachings of the various denominations.

But onething which most of those readers in the past seem to have miss out on was the repeated commentary in the scriputres which clearly says the Book is closed until the end times.

Daniel, for one, says the book has been sealed until the time coms when knowledge abounds and men are free to travel to and fro.

Sounds like 2012 to me:




Dan. 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book,even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

 

The fact that the fourth "yowm" was used to make the Solar Clock, and assign an Earth day of 24 hours tells the comprehensive reader that the other seven "days" were different.

 

Or Daniel could have just been tripping on acid, since that passage, and much of the bible, makes about as much sense as what a hippie on acid would write.

 

Which is about the worth of that statement.

Nice to see such intellectualism from another atheist. We tremble in fear before the sheer rudeness of it, which has, historically, ... um never done anything accept get the rude person eventually punched in the face. Where he then usually finds him left alone looking around seeing that, "All that science, and he couldn't figure out what happens when you are just rude to people?"

So, good luck with your 'arguementation'.

 

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW *WHAT* THE HELL THE BIBLE IS USUALLY SAYING! That chimpanzee that learned sign language recently communicates to us better than "god" does, so "god" being all-intelligent, and all-powerful like they say is highly unlikely.
"God" could clear all this up for us fools in a heart-beat, but he'd rather sit up there ("down" in Australia??) laughing his ass off at us (yes, he has an ass, because we were "created in his image" apparently...not sure why pooping is need up there, but what do I know.)

 

I tend to respect what Daniel wrote because Jesus repeated one of Daniels prophecies and they both seem to be on target factually and historically.
In fact, the prophecy is a continuation of whathe said a few verse up in Dan 12, about the end time coming when kniwledge abounds:


Dan. 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, (70 AD), and the abomination (of the Dome of the Rock) that maketh desolate (the holiest of the Holy Place, be) set up (in 690 AD), there shall be (1290 years), a thousand two hundred and ninety days, (1290 + 690 = 1980AD, when the Jews, again are in possession of Jerusalem).


Dan. 12:12 Blessed is he, (in 1980 AD), that waiteth (45 more years), and cometh to (the end: i.e.; 1980 + 45 =2025AD), the thousand, three hundred and five and thirty days, (2K25 AD).

 

If people were all honest with themselves and others, yes, it would be RIP Christianity, Islam and Judaism.

And of even greater evidence than the fossils are DNA and morphology, where the story of our evolutionary history is also stored.

 

The "solar clock" is not mentioned in Genesis - you're reading that into it.

 

he is compared to you.

 

That is obviously not the point.