Fox News ...what a joke!

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  1. LetsBePragmatic

    LetsBePragmatic New Member

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    I found this interesting and decided to do a search as see what I could find. first thing I found was this:

    What you know depends on what you watch: Current events knowledge across popular news sources

    ....the study concludes that media sources have a significant impact on the number of questions that people were able to answer correctly. The largest effect is that of Fox News: all else being equal, someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer just 1.04 domestic questions correctly — a figure which is significantly worse than if they had reported watching no media at all. On the other hand, if they listened only to NPR, they would be expected to answer 1.51 questions correctly; viewers of Sunday morning talk shows fare similarly well. And people watching only The Daily Show with Jon Stewart could answer about 1.42 questions correctly.
     
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    petef56 Well-Known Member

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    Come join the new generation.
    Who uses the printed yellow pages phone book anymore? ... Ans: Nobody!

    Who get their news from mainstream media FOX, NBC, ABC, CBS? ... Ans: Nobody!
    (Weather news and some local news, are still useful)

    I'm now getting much of my news & info from Facebook friends posts that lead me to articles which then often results in youtube searches for similar info.

    I'm also getting lots of news from links in discussions right here at politicalforum.com

    Then there's certain political websites I use to get info and news.
     
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    You would have a point if you could actually refute what I said, but I can document every word of if, and we both know it.
     
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    If social media is your primary information source, you're not well informed at all. You're in a validation loop.

    Your like minded friends are sending you stuff that appeals to your prejudices, and you're tailoring your searches the same way. Folks like you are easy prey to political operatives because they know they can tell you anything they want to as long as it confirms your biases.
     
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    Is the OP surprised? Fox has a history of burying anyone who is not a neocon (Bush, Kasich) or a tea party darling (Cruz, Rubeo)

    Look at how they handled Ron Paul in both 2008 and 2012. He was one of the front runners in both primaries, and they spent all of 2008 praising McCain and all of 2012 praising Romney, doing their best to not even acknowledge Paul's campaign, much less that he was one of the top 3.

    I personally can not stand Trump, but It does not surprise me at all that Fox is trying to bury him like they did Ron Paul.


    If it comes down to it, I will vote for Jesse Ventura, if he runs, and Sanders, though he is a little farther to the left than I like, if Ventura does not run. There are enough moderates and blue dogs to keep Sanders in check. If Sanders is not the Democrat candidate, I will write in Rand Paul, as a last resort. I will never vote for Trump or Cruz. One of a fake populist who is only running to stroke his own ego, and would probably resign after a week, and the other is a far right theocrat who want Christian Sharia law enforced on all Americans.
     
  6. LetsBePragmatic

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    It's 8 o'clock here at the center of the United States, and I thought I'd see what FOX News was up to this morning.

    - can either Cruz or Rubio stop Trump
    - Romney suggests there is a problem with Trump's taxes
    - Bryon York discusses delegate count and what it would take to stop Trump.
    - pres Obama's consideration of Nevada's Republican Governor as his appointment to Supreme Court
    - police save a guy trapped in burning truck
    - the weather
    - intelligence leaders to testify on current worldwide threats
    - Carl Rove discusses Super Tuesday and makes the case in deep detail, that Trump's lead in the delegate count today, in no way predicts that he will win the nomination. insists nomination is still very much up for grabs
    - Russians bombing Syria
    - Russian troops threaten Turkey. John Bolton discusses the Russian efforts to prop up Assad, and that John Kerry and Obama Administration are lying to us about the situation in Syria
    - House Intelligence Committee hearing on threats to US interests and global interests. focusing on Apple's refusal to break its own security & whether Hillary's emails threatened national security.
    - GOP having high anxiety about trump. Bill O'Riley say Trump doesn't care about Rep. issues, ...only cares about winning. saying he really isn't a Republican ... he's a Trumpian lol Shawn Spitzer of the RNC says Bill is wrong, Trump is Republican, they will support whoever the nominee is. all that matters is beating Hillary or Bernie
    - police break man out of burning truck
    -lengthy segment about Hillary's emails (with very unflattering photos of her lol) and the FBI investigation. both guests believe she has committed a crime.

    okay, that's all the time I have for TV this morning.
    the above was 45 minutes on Fox News starting at 8 this morning.

    do u see any patterns here?
     
  7. Sanskrit

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    Yeah, I see some patterns.

    1. You watch a helluva lot of Fox News (tons more than I do). So do a lot of the LW on PF. Seems they watch more Fox than most of the RW or other posters here, leading to the conclusions that they haven't figured out that -anything- on TV is a dumbed down for the masses product, and that they get most of their political awareness from -entertainment-. Oh well, they are lefties with little awareness other than what their entertainment (Comedy Central, SNL) tells them, so that's to be expected.

    2. Any thread here on PF attempting to deal with any specific issue with reporting on Fox will instantly degrade into a general Fox bashing thread bereft of any substance other than -maybe- a mostly made up or distorted list from Media Matters of "Fox News Lies!" that will be cutpasted ad nauseum in thread after thread after thread after putting "Fox News lies" into google and lazily linking the results here.

    3. People don't understand the nature of the content on news channels, which are entertainment businesses just like any other TV programming... they depend on RATINGS for REVENUE. There are and will be too many primaries to make each and every one the top story of the day. The viewing public doesn't care that much about each individual primary, only the one in their state. NO ONE wants to watch "Primary TV" because primaries, by and large are BORING, and the only thing that needs said about them is "so and so won." OF COURSE one legitimate topic after a primary where one candidate wins big is "how can the others stop them?" and that doesn't mean at all that whoever airs it is "in the can" for Rubio, Trump or anyone else.

    Those are the patterns I see.
     
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    This thread is full of small minded foxnews bigots.

    Progressives need to move forward and stop hating on those with differing opinions.

    Sheesh, This is America.


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    Every commentator - except Hannity - from Bill O'Reilly to Megyn Kelly, and nearly all others, have tried to gun down Trump many, many times. Kelly's hour could be called the "stop Trump" hour. However, they do allow Trump to speak and what his says carries more weight with upwards of 40% of Republicans over FOX's talking heads.

    FOX figured by putting Trump on and letting him ramble on off the top of his head then they could use Trump's words against him, while lecturing down at him while Trump did so. This completely backfired on FOX. FOX absolutely is NOT pro-Trump. They just don't know how to stop him and their intense efforts have had the opposite effect, just like a stacked last debate against Trump of an audience to boo Trump also backfired.
     
  10. LetsBePragmatic

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    there u go boys...
    lol

    when u don't like the message, u attack the messenger

    likewise, when u can't hold up ur end of the debate, u launch personal attacks at the person u r debating with

    both are loosing strategies, IMO
     
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    Your message itself is inaccurate and biased, draws attention to the habits of the messenger. Since YOU YOURSELF posted a chronological log of your Fox viewing habits, you opened the door to calling the messenger's attitudes and thoughts into question. If you are so ideologically obsessed with Fox that you actually chronicle their programming to make overgeneralized claims like in this thread as opposed to discussing an actual political issue, then sure, there's LOTS to be said about the messenger.
     
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    wait a minute there Buckwheat!

    I would appreciate it, if you would keep your facts straight, ESPECIALLY when you are discussing me personally.

    I didn't log my viewing habits.
    I did an experiment.
    After yesterday's discussion I thought it might be interesting to see what Fox was focusing on again today.

    I picked a random 45 minutes period and wrote done all the issues Fox News discussed in those 45 minutes.

    All I did was put it out in there, for comment

    I think that's about as unbiased as it gets there sweet cheeks!
    😘
     
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    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    Shove your "Buckwheat" and "sweet cheeks" BS, tells us all we need to know about your mental landscape.

    The facts of this thread are you logged, catalogued, wrote down (those things are SYNONYMOUS) the programming on Fox, WHICH YOU HAVE ADMITTED IN THE THREAD YOU REGULARLY WATCH. It's right there in the thread for all to see, and I stand by what I have posted so far as not refuted in the least.
     
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    kind of a harsh response don't u think?
    I must of hit a nerve
    lol

    so what's ur point?
     
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    I've made my points in prior posts. You have addressed -none- of them. In fact, you are proving the truth of some of them with each increasingly vapid reply you post. But of course, have never seen the "umad?" "hit a nerve" line of "unthought" from leftists... about ten thousand times... when they are caught or called out and have no legit response. Par for the course when talking to the Walmart left.
     
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    so, you have decided I'm a "lefty" because I think that Fox News, purposely omits pertinent data, and stilts their so called "fair and balanced" coverage to fit their political agenda as the front man for the establishment RNC.
    ...and as a result my opinion has no value?

    you need to wake up friend! Not everybody that disagrees with you, is it on the opposite side of the political spectrum
    ..."a lefty" as u so derisively put it.
     
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    I watch CNN part time, but Fox News more. I'm on several forums and on FB where I get many opinions and information. Most of the media other than Fox News is extremely biased to the left so I don't put much credence in them. I am a mature, experienced, common sense conservative who has little respect or belief in what liberals consider authoritative.
     
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    The only way to deal with propagandist media is to ignore them. If they're not going to do their job, then there's no point in even paying them any attention, which is the best way to harm a media outlet. They need viewership and readership to survive.
     
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    Self-deleted: Sorry, didn't realize OP was from yesterday, and my observations of FOX today are not relevant.
     
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    Every study shows the media tilts left. And that's not because they're smarter than us. Political views are mostly shaped by values, and members of the media are generally collectivists.
     
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    well there may or may not be bias in the media. I acknowledge that reporters r human and have their own points of view. I assume however, that they have developed those points of view because they they understand in detail what is going on. After all I t is their job to be well informed. and they wouldn't have gotten that job if they weren't also smart and well educated.

    but one thing is beyond dispute:

    What you know depends on what you watch: Current events knowledge across popular news sources

    ....the study concludes that media sources have a significant impact on the number of questions that people were able to answer correctly. The largest effect is that of Fox News: all else being equal, someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer just 1.04 domestic questions correctly — a figure which is significantly worse than if they had reported watching no media at all. On the other hand, if they listened only to NPR, they would be expected to answer 1.51 questions correctly; viewers of Sunday morning talk shows fare similarly well. And people watching only The Daily Show with Jon Stewart could answer about 1.42 questions correctly.
     
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    interesting word choice...

    collectivist
    noun
    1. an adherent of the practice or principle of giving a group priority over each individual in it

    so u r saying the media is left leaning, because THEY GENERALLY put the good of the whole country, ahead of the interests of any one individual???

    lol
    and that is bad thing according to you, right?
     
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    Who did the survey and what were the questions? Have you seen Watters World? A program (on Fox) wherein a reporter goes on the streets and asks the simplest questions like 'Who is VP?' etc. Most can't answer and most of those that can't answer are typical libbies and/or under-educated students.
     
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    http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2012/confirmed/final.pdf
    (shrug)
    it's a University study
     
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    you want another one?
    http://climateshiftproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/FeldmanStudy.pdf
     

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