Fox News ...what a joke!

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by LetsBePragmatic, Feb 24, 2016.

  1. LetsBePragmatic

    LetsBePragmatic New Member

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    sorry
    measurable thing

    NOT miserable thing

    lol
    although it is that too
    :)
     
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    Gutter mouth
    ...the final part of my post dropped off

    whether the economy is better or not, is a measurable thing. It's not an opinion, it is an easily deducible fact.

    By the way, do you think the economy has improved?
     
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    As usual ignoring the fact that you are wrong. And your own bias showing grandly. After complaining that they didn't report about Trumps victory you then say they did but are mainly talking about how others have to do to remain relevant. Way to contradict yourself.
     
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    you succeeded
    Congratulations!
    lol
    … I'm speechless
    I don't have a clue how to respond to something like that.
    (chuckling in real life)
    I'm done with our little toe to toe
    ....say what u will, I'm going to go discuss something with someone who actually is open to other viewpoints

    have a good day friend
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    While at the same time getting individuals to watch collectively so they have higher ratings to sell advertisement.
    And then all those individuals, collectively believe the same stuff.

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    Hillarious. The guys asks 1000 people a question and takes the 10 dumbest people who answer and makes a tv segment about it.
    And people believe it to be true. Yes, there are some uninformed people out there.
     
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    yes....
    If collectively, everyone is sheep with no will of their own, or intellect to evaluate the data that comes at them each day
    (shrug)
     
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    it's not a TV segment, it's just a university study.
    But it's only one of a dozen university studies that came to the same conclusions, over many years.

    u guys always want to discredit any source whose results disagree with your opinions

    "people believe what they want to believe, and what they are afraid is true"
     
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    The way you talk to people it sounds more like you're not even out of high school yet, sweetheart.

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    It doesn't matter they still graded people's opinions.
     
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    another obvious next step for u guys
    .... if discrediting the source doesn't work, step 2: personal attacks against the messenger
    lol
     
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    All networks are biased and in the pocket of politics.
     
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    I don't agree with u, but that is beside the point
    we are discussing studies that measure how well informed people are who have one primary source of news.

    Fox News viewers answered less questions right, then people who watch no news and people who got all their news from the daily show
     
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    The difference between Fox and other networks is that Fox is the only network right of center. The others are left of center.

    "Studies" you refer to are those that arbitrarily state what "informed" means based on what mainstream media chooses to prioritize and what the study's authors chose to use as a measure of being informed. I'm not impressed.
     
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    This is why we need to implement our greatest right and conduct our lawful and peaceful revolution so we can see the PURPOSE of free speech manifest.

    We will shame the MSM over and over until they either expand the truths we expose or loose all credibility to become obsolete like the government they collude with.
     
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    so you think questions like "has the economy improved" are rigged questions in some way?
    like I say, Some people
    ...when they can't refute the facts before them,
    try to discredit the source.
    usually, if that doesn't work, they launch personal attacks against the messenger

    it's just hard for u to accept that many studies have been done, over many years and the all agree on one thing:
    no matter what year the survey was conducted, no matter how many participants are in the survey, or what part of the country they come from, or what their political leanings are…
    People who exclusively watch FOXNews , Answer fewer MEASUREABLE, fact based questions correctly, then do people who watch no news, or people who get all their news from The Daily Show.
     
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    I looked at the specific study you quoted and noted that they were topics that media at the time focused on. Many actual relevant topics the media wholly ignores, so it doesn't have that much sway to me.

    You keep making vague references to supposed studies but can't name a single one.

    You keep insisting that these vague studies mean that only Fox is biased, when the studies you mention don't even touch the topic of media bias.

    MSNBC for example is openly progressive. That means they're openly politically biased to the left.
     
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    you obviously didn't read these posts very far back. I have given links to two university studies many times here. This wasn't in any way part of any media outlet, there was no bias, there are many other studies during many other years, when there's many other topics being discussed, but why should I go to the trouble to find the links, when you won't even look at the links I've already provided?

    anyway
    … The results are always the same
    no matter who does the study, or which year it was taken or the current topics being discussed
    (shrug)
     
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    no…
    I keep saying that no matter who does the study, and when it is done, FOXNews viewers can answer fewer fact based questions correctly, then can people who watch no news, and people who watch The Daily Show
     
  18. Empress

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    I checked the thread, and there is one study regarding how informed viewers are and no studies regarding network biases. There is one more study on a different subject entirely that is not from a university.

    I'm speaking of political slant in news coverage. You seem to understand this with Fox but not with other networks. MSNBC is openly progressive. CNN covers from a left of center angle as well, specifically on social topics like amnesty, immigration, gay marriage, LGBT anything, gun control, feminism, and religion. Very few dissenting voices are presented.

    That's what I was referring to.

    I've yet to come across a national-level news outlet of any kind that isn't trying to tell me what to think.
     
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    Dodge noted.
     
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    I think we are talking about the same thing. if a network is slanted because of bias, their viewers will not know the true facts, when asked specific fact based questions.

    u missed one of the links I have already supplied links to two separated studies.

    here are three more, even though they are not from universities.

    http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Iraq/IraqMedia_Oct03/IraqMedia_Oct03_rpt.pdf
    https://kaiserfamilyfoundation.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/8148.pdf
    http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/dec10/Misinformation_Dec10_rpt.pdf

    how many more are you going to need?

    I think all networks have a bias toward making money
    ... I think only Fox News focuses on delivering the Establishment RNC version of reality, even when it includes doing everything they can to help beat Trump
     
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    Center is arbitrary and movable.
     
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    True but when your reporting is consistently bent to one side of the aisle far more often than not...
     
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    If one is at the edge of a spectrum. Everything else is always to the other side. Even if by a little.
    Perspective is everything.
     
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    Fox News might be biased but they are doing something right because they are ranked #1 in Viewership.

    AA
     
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    Uh no. Those questions weren't geared toward finding bias but rather how much was known on basic subjects. To find bias, it would have been better to see how many points of view on a given topic they were familiar with based on their consumption of media.

    Again, such as CNN's one-sided reporting for amnesty including the airing of documentaries showing the woe-be-gone sufferings of illegal aliens in this country. It's very one-sided and slanted, geared to manipulate the audience by invoking appeals to pity by presenting them with a very narrow and controlled amount of information and views.

    Such as this:

    Latino in America

    In their own words

    Story Highlights

    • Latinos share their personal experiences for CNN's "Latino in America"

    • They touch on family values, traditions, discrimination and the American dream

    Absolutely nothing regarding the negative impact of poor border control or high immigration rates was touched.

    To top the cake, I actually took on the documentary maker of this slop - Soledad OBrien - on Twitter for her slant and racist bias, and she told me to "drop dead" and blocked me.

    Your link on the Iraq War actually looks like a good reflection of the impact that US government propaganda disseminated by cooperative elements in the mainstream media has had. That is actually a good example of intentional control of information and dissemination of views by the media.

    Do you think there are any networks that are or have been geared toward pushing any Democratic candidates?

    Indeed, they have.

    How the Press Reported the 2008 General Election

    And a lot of people picked up on the media's bias for Obama.

    Most Voters Say News Media Wants Obama to Win
     

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