Adolf Abbott has great role models, there are plenty to choose from..... - - - Updated - - - But they didn't arrive in boats, like your great great great did. Oh, look what we have, another boat arrival story......
How do you know they didn't arrive in boats? The pertinent fact is they came to Australia from somewhere else, just like the Europeans did. They also (apart from the very first humans to arrive here) pushed out and took over the land of those they found here.
With all due respect, how many Britians; Welsh; Irish; Scotish; Italians; Greeks; Canadians; Americians; New Zealanders; Tongans; ect, living in Australia, want "their" Nationality independently recognised from the Australian Nationality? It just seems to me and many others that Aboriginals are the ones with the racist chip on their shoulders, and are not happy being part of Australia's multi-cultural society, unless they are getting all the attention and the sympathy spot-light focused on them all the time as being some special race of people. Legally recognised Aboriginality is just another con-job for them to dig their way into more financial compensation and special benefits under the Australian Racial Discrimination Act. Otherwise, they wouldn't be worried about it, like the other Nationalities living in Australia lised above. All the other Nationalities still possess their native cultures, but none are foring that recognition upon the Australian people, because the Nationalities listed in my opening paragraph are not seeking financial compensation or any special benefits.
Yeah, it's not like Aboriginals are the only ethnic group you mentioned that are native to Australia or anything...oh wait.
Bullshyte. How many other Australians are native to Australia? They were born here; their parents were here; their grandparents were here, or there great grand parents were born here? Do you here them asking for any special cultural recognition - NO. Please tell me the intellectual value of being recognised as a naitve to a specific piece of inanimate dirt on a single planet we all share; besided the game of one-up-man-ship, or hoping it will bring financial rewards?
Yeah, and Aboriginal ancestry goes back 40 000 years longer than those grandparents you mention, with an entire culture built around that inanimate dirt (which aboriginals might consider not so inanimate). So what point are you even trying to make? That because our grandparents lived in Australia everything that occurred due to colonialism is perfectly justifiable and that Aboriginals deserve no cultural recognition? Well, for one, you aren't an aboriginal. Neither am I, but the difference is I'm not a weird old guy like you who has completely lost touch with reality. If you can't see the value in acknowledging the prior residents of the land when for an extremely long time they weren't even considered human by the colonial powers then you are in no position to be debating the matter. However, you've proved yourself unworthy of debate a number of times (failure to provide your burden of proof springs to mind) so this isn't too surprising.
So she can't be proud of who she is, without having access to special government benefits? It is in NO WAY the government's right, or role, to racially classify citizens! It's no ones "right" to receive money based on their genetic makeup. These "benefits" are NOT compensation, don't make me laugh! Compensation claims need to go through the courts.
The government doesn't racially classify, it is the aboriginal community who I understand who raised concerns about people who were not of aboriginal heritage claiming benefits in the first place. Whether you agree or not, these people missed out on any sort benefit, grants and scholarships that enhance opportunities therefore livelihoods that non aborigines had the opportune of receiving exclusively up until 1967! Yep, they weren't afforded these benefits simply because they were aborigines. It's ludicrous not to want to assist people who were blatantly overlooked by government, and now want to rid our system of race distinction. Race distinction is beautiful....ignorance is evil!
How soon people forget history. People going round as though history never happened. As late as the mid 70s the government was certainly racially classifying Aboriginals, taking their children away. Come back and tell me how you're doin' after your parents were ripped away from you and you grew up institutionalised devoid of any knowledge of your real parents and culture and in cases being told your real parents were dead. That happened to Archie Roach.Was told his parents had died as a very young child only for a long lost relative to track him down in his late teens to tell him his mother had died the previous week. Devastated he went and lived on the streets, homeless and started drinking. He met Ruby Hunter on the streets who'd also been a stolen child. They toughed it out thank god got through it. Tell me that is the norm and that the effects of having been stolen from your family ISN'T racially classifying Aboriginals and that for Aboriginals still alive after having been stolen as children, that they should just suck it up. Quick to moan we shouldn't be racially classifying people while ignorant of history and the insiduous way Aboriginals were racially classified. History doesn't go away just because you'd like it to and because you think you can make a simplistic argument devoid of context or insight. Change your story and go chase a white person around for being that much more likely than an Aboriginal to secure work. Why? Because of racist tools such as witnessed in this part of the forum. Go tell those whites they're taking jobs in greater numbers than Aboriginals and how totally that sucks. Oh, yeah, a level playing field. For sure. Go read some history.
Well said Gwendoline! You've nailed it nicely. A recent study suggest that racism is on the rise and has risen significantly since 2012. http://m.smh.com.au/national/racism...nts-report-cultural-shift-20140405-365a5.html
Ignorance is stupidity, often resulting in evil consequences. The stupidity of the leftist principal of, "maintaining the rage", ie , propagating the hate, is the greatest threat to Aboriginal people that they`ve ever faced. This might be a convenient political football, for a few lazy lefty fat cats, but it has disastrous consequences for honest reconciliation, it provides a crutch for dysfunctionality, denies the healing concept of personal responsibility.
I don't hear any 40,000 year old Aborigines asking for cultural recognition. I hear Aborigines who were born in Australia at the same time as other Australians, and their parents, and grand parents asking for special cultural recognition. Why should Aboriginaes born in Australia within the last 100 years be entitled to any special cultural recognition, and other Australans of non-Aboriginal decent born in the same time span of 100 years not be entitled to the same special cultural recognition? We are talking about now - 2014, not 40,000 years ago. If you want to go back into the past 40,000 years, then I think everyone living in Australia right now would be entitled to special benefits and compensation, and have their original culture recognised as being special. What makes Aboriginals think "their" culture is special to everyone elses? The remains found at Lake Mungo 1 & 3 displaced modern day Aborigines as the first Australians, so what are they squaking about now, besides something that is going to get them more financial benefits and compensation form the Australian tax payers. Instead of the Aboriginal people whinging and whinning at Australians all the time, they should be giving us more respect and gratitude; considering Australians could have exterminated every Aboriginal person in Australia as vermin under the Flora and Fauna Act. They are not showing much respect to people and a culture that saved their lives!!!
Yeah, that's completely irrelevant considering they share the same culture. They are entitled to special cultural recognition because their culture was almost eradicated through colonialism. This doesn't translate to Aboriginals thinking their culture is better or more "special" than others either. That is ridiculous and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of why Aboriginal culture is acknowledged and special measures taken to preserve it in the first place. The fact that you can't even grasp such a simple concept speaks volumes.
The discontinuation of draconian censorship, in no way inhibits cultural recognition, or preservation. Political Correctness in all it`s forms, supports regressive bigotry, 18C is no exception. The suppression of honest dialogue, inhibits constructive process, prolonging misery.
Every Australian from a different cultures shares those original ancient cultures also, not just Aborigines, so your theroy is flawed. How many Australians who come from different cultures throughout the world also had "their" culture eridicated through colonialism and invasions? As my original post states: I don't see these individuals asking for any special cultural recognition. The Greeks had their culture supplanted by the Romans, and the Romans had their culture supplanted by the barbarians, but I dont see any greeks or Itialians living in Australia today in 2014 asking for their original culture to be specially recognised - do you? Please spread your wisdom, and tell what is so special about Aboriginal culture, that it needs special recognition, but other cultures don't need their cultures specially recognised after they were colonised and invaded? Are you suggesting that Aboriginals are the only people on the planet to have suffered colonisation or invasion, and had their cultures supplanted by the invading forces? I think you seriously need to read and study the history of Europe. How many 100% real English living in Australia whinge and whine that they want "thier" culture specially recognised, because they were invaded and colonised by Anglo-Celts; Anglo Saxons and Vikings?
If this was Greece and the Greeks had their land taken over and their culture decimated they would be asking for recognition as well. The fact you think nationalities that weren't based in this country for 40 000 years and whose culture doesn't see the land as belonging to creator spirits that connect them to the natural world is an appropriate comparison again just demonstrates how incredibly misguided you are. Again you demonstrate a severe lack of understanding. Aboriginal culture doesn't receive "special recognition" because it's inherently special. It's more than obvious you don't know what you are talking about and are desperately latching onto anything in order to try and justify your hillbilly hatred.
Draconian censorship? Yeah, because soooo many people were getting pulled up for violating 18C. /sarcasm
So Aborigines are the only culture now with an ancient spiritual connection to their land How many 100% real English living in Australia whinge and whine that they want "thier" culture specially recognised, because they were invaded and colonised by Anglo-Celts; Anglo Saxons and Vikings? As I said before, instead of whinging and whining at Australians all the time and telling us how bad we are, the Aboriginals should be a lot more respectful and grateful to the Australian people, considering we could have killed the bloody lot of them as vermin under the Flora and Fauna Act. Is this gratituded and respect Australians get for saving their lives? I only dislike someone when an obvious snow-job is being pulled in front of my eyes thats going financially take advantage of me and my family. If you want to feel sorry and have sympathy for people who are pulling the wool over your eyes for financial gain, then that is your own stupidity to deal with.
