French Holocaust denier Robert Faurisson dies at 89

No evidence of that either.

 

There has to be motivation for everything. What do you believe was the motivation of Germany's left, of Roma and Jews and all the others to make it up.

 

I deny there ever was a person named Robert Faurisson.

 

Many left wingers and others don't like Muslims ... So ?
They have many countries is the Middle East and Africa.. they force their way of life and Sharia on us the Europians ..
Most are illegals , Why would the EU like them ?

 

What planet do you live on? lol
Right wingers are the ones who force people to change their way of life.

You don't see Muslims marching in the west demanding cultural change. Right wingers do it all the time. In the US, they march with weapons and everything to intimidate. And recently, they been sending massive amounts of bombs, and killing Jews at a synagoge.

 

Stop Trolling this threat with your hate filled & snarky petulant insults that reveal more about you than the targets of your vitriol.
While forum rules prohibit trolling, your elder abuse certainly does not speak well of the father who raised you.

Everyone here has a father, uncle, or garbageman who claims to have seen or done this, that or the other but "Jazz" is the only actual eyewitness & survivor on this thread to have actually experienced the horrors of WW2 & subsequent Allied atrocities.
How much of WW2 have YOU experienced & what have YOU experienced of life in WW2 Germany other than cutting & pasting the canned, Nizkor pseudo rebuttals you regurgitate in your post #215?

If there were any truth to the holocaustian myths poured into your head by the multi-billion dollar Holocaust® Industry, there would not have been 150,000 full Jews & "mischlings" among those "bastards" you mention many of whom rose to the highest ranks (Generals, Admirals etc) and Jews who were awarded Germany's highest military honors.

With every passing year, the gaping holes in the standard holocaust narrative become more numerous & bigger in spite of repressive censorship laws & draconian persecution of sincere truth seekers(1) imposed by a profit driven Holocaust Industry whose claims cannot withstand the sunlight of honest examination & open discussion.




(1) Quote: "The fastest way to get expelled from a British university is by saying you are looking at chemical evidence for how Zyklon was used in World War II, with a discussion of how debusing technology functioned in the German World War II labour camps "

— Nicholas Kollerstrom

 

If one is to believe anything produced by the ADL, there are far more people who do not believe the standard holocaust narrative in spite of the massive disinformation campaign by the multi billion dollar Holocaust Industry & its complicit Hollywood fiction artists.(1). In other words, the gullible, angry & insulting holocaustians who sully threads like this are in the minority.

Additionally, the most rapacious executioners in the German camps were typhus & starvation as Allied bombing of civilian supply lines made it impossible to supply inmates with adequate medicine & food.
Typhus was so rampant that 14,000 inmates at Belsen died AFTER liberation by the British.



”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

EXCERPT “This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources.

Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

- Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

- people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED

 

We were all Germans, and most Germans stood behind Hitler.

But still, it was not enough to help us win.
What gets forgotten are the British and American bombers who pounded the German cities night for night.
My parents lived not far from Kiel, a harbor city on the Baltic Sea where ships were built. That is also where now after the war the Israeli U-Boats were built.
Anyway, when the alarm sounded we would get up, and Dad and I would even stand outside and watch some 200 - 300 bombers fly directly over our house in the direction of Kiel. It didn't take long and the sky turned red.
A day or two later we got new children in our little country school... the bombed-out from Kiel and Neumuenster. Our house was always filled with bombing victims and, starting spring of 1945, with refugees from the East. A family of four stuffed into the one spare bedroom we had. We shared kitchen and living room.

The bombing of our cities was done deliberate, to break the German spirit.
Excerpt:
A 40-year-old survivor of the Operation Gomorrha gave the following account, which without a doubt contributed to some of the awful smell that the RAF bomber crews took note of high above:
"The stretch of road upon which we now traveled brought ever worsening scenes of horror. I saw many women with their children held in their arms running, burning and then falling and not getting back up. We passed masses of people made up of four or five corpses, each probably a family, visible only as a pile of burned substance no larger than a small child. Many men and women fell over suddenly without having caught fire.... Silently and with the last of their force, women tried to save their children. They carried them pressed close. Many of these children were already dead, without their mothers knowing."
Roy Akehurst, a wireless operator in an RAF bomber crew, was struck by the destruction that he had help caused. His horrific words are symbolic for the feelings of some soldiers after the World War II, but sadly not for all:

"It struck me at the time, the thought of the women and children down there. We seemed to fly for hours over a sheet of fire, a terrific red glow with thin haze over it. I found myself making comments to the crew 'Oh God, those poor people'.
It was completely uncalled for. You can't justify it.

At least some of our enemies felt a little remorse!
https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Germany_during_World_War_II

Read about Bergen-Belsen Camp and the bombing of a nearby town...
https://historicaltribune.wordpress.com/category/leading-articles/
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I am spending hours reading through websites... losing what I just wrote... starting over... many typing mistakes... getting frustrated... my estate manager drops by, we chat for an hour... I'm sending this off as is!!!

 

Holocaust Denial is bigoted and disgusting

 

Of course. Much like hate speech.

 

There isnt any evidence you are a human being, either. For all I know you are some kind of denialist 'bot. Go figger.

 

Oh? trolling? Guess what? You just met somebody who as bigotted against holocaust deniers and jew haters and nazis and fascists as much as they hate jews et.al. Snarky? You bet. I consider people who choose to hold such odious ideologies and emotions to be the true untermenschen.

I have noticed that you have repeatedly peddled your denialist bullshit around here. I have repeatedly debunked that bullshit. You have been repeatedly been schooled.

18. Remember that the revisionist community is peopled mainly by racists, white-supremacists, Israel-bashers, and Nazis. This means that everyone except these kinds of people will dismiss you. But don't let that stop you. Don't let your Fellini-esque, internally inconsistent, un-researched, hypocritical distortions and lies prevent you from continuing to post. After all, you're fighting for the truth (as you'd like it to be).

OMG. I heard direct experience of both my grandmother and father who lived it. I have heard it from my german relatives (unfortunately all the german jews with the exception of my grandfather were killed) who survived the war. I have been a student of the period for decades.

AS to Nizkor, the reason it remains as the go to resource for debunking denialist bullshit is that the denialist bullshit hasn't changed even one iota since it started oozing out of the sphincters of Rassinier, butz and the boys back in the 60's

But I get how you are weary of having your bullshit blown out of the water.

MORE BULLSHIT. Unbelievable. My grandfather had an iron friggin' cross from fighting for germany in ww1. He was a full jew. there were lots of German jews who were patriotic. It wasn't until your beloved adolph and his gang of thugs made the scene that things changed.

There were some mischilings in the nazi's wehrmacht. But not even remotely close to 150,000 and there wasn't a single full jew. Nary a one.

EVEN MORE BULLSHIT. It appears in the last few major releases of nazi war time documentations, there is NOTHING but corroboration of the plan to "eradicate" the jews.

Considering holocaust deniers have not been able to come up with anything even remotely credible, its a wonder you cling to the trite bullshit of faurisson, zundel, rudolph, barnes and the rest of the crackpot haters.

Oh? wanna discuss the chemical properties of hydrogen cyanide in its Zyklon B form? Or Leuchter's idiotic kindergarten finding? Or perhaps we can dig up a transcript from Tesch's trial - you know the one where the inventor of zyklon b was executed?

I realize the denialists Zyklon B bullshit is based on Rudolph's twisted "chemical" analysis arguments, because in addition to being a full blown nazi scumbag was a chemist. Unfortunately it turns out he either wasn't a good chemist or is just a lousy liar.

 

The carpet bombing of german cities was a designed to "break" the German spirit - terror, death and destruction. It was also a goodly measure of revenge.

Or perhaps you didn't hear about the London Blitz, or the bombing of Coventry as a german kid of the time. It was a time of all out war in all its stark brutality.

Nonetheless, in the aftermath of the war, any future such atrocities would be considered a war crime.

 

This is just broad slander. It's almost like questioning crime in minority neighborhoods, or questioning corruption in politics, law enforcement, business and finance, is bigoted and disgusting, unpatriotic, racist, homophobic, xenophobic, etc...

It depends more on the intent behind the denial rather than the denial, itself.

 

Denialist...?

There is evidence of me being human. However, you have not seen it so you have every right to doubt I am human. If people give you evidence or information or assurances that imply I am human, but do not clearly prove that I am human, you still have every right to doubt that I am human. But you would be wrong to believe I am either human or not without knowing.

 

They would...except for the United States. They helped make those rules then excluded themselves from them, which might be why we don't face any punishment for Vietnam. But then again no one ever really is punished for these horrible offenses against humanity unless you're from anywhere other than Europe and don't have nuclear weapons.

 

yep, that 'bout sums it up.

Victors don't convict themselves and losers can't. law of the jungle writ large justified by protecting the common good.

 

No it isn't slander at all.

and it isn't remotely like the lame false equivalency you are attempt.

Holocaust denial is a lame and pathetic attempt to re-write history in defense of the nazis, germany and express jew hatred.
It uses fake science and fallacious logic and a number of rhetorical devices to ensure that the truth bounces off their friggin' foreheads.

I know you don't find it at all unusual that the ONLY scientific evidence presented by deniers is a bunch of bullshit generated by rank amateurs. They refuse to acknowledge the documented evidence. They refuse to accept the results of 10,000 trials. They refuse to believe in eyewitness testimony. They refuse to believe confessions. They refuse to believe anything other than the Holohoax, was all a jew plot to steal goyish money and realize the dream of Israel. Pathetic losers all.

 

The Inhuman Bombing Of Germany, 1940-1945

Jörg Friedrich's searing account of the bombing of around 150 German cities between 1940 and 1945.

Friedrich's book is a raw account of how it was under the bombs for five years. The more remarkable thing is just how the German population endured it without the 'collapse of morale' that the Allied planners sought. He is the first German historian to expose in remorseless, almost unreadable detail just what the millions of tons of high explosive and incendiary bombs did to Germany's people and its cultural heritage.

Large cities such as Cologne or Essen experienced more than 250 raids each, so many that at the end the bombers were simply turning ruins into ruins.
Killing as many German civilians as possible in ways that became progressively more grotesque was Britain's strategy from 1940 to the last attacks in April 1945.

Yes, the last killings I witnessed as a ten year old. My Dad came excitedly home one morning from his workshop and told us, my mother and the heavy with child refugee woman with her 2 1/2 year old boy, all sitting in the root cellar ... come out and take a look at the theater going on by the Chaussee. I just flew to my Dad and together we went up into the attic of the house from where we could see the Chaussee (highway to Kiel and up to Denmark). Several low-flying airplanes were shooting at an endless convoy of fleeing German army vehicles. Rattattatt, rattattatt.. flames and smoke all along as far as we could see. No matter how old I get, that image I will never forget. Neither will I forget what I found a year later (1946) while out with our school and teacher! On the other side of the Chaussee were large fields and meadows. Part of the first meadow, closest to the highway, was covered with daisies...

We had to pick the heads of these lovely little flowers for medicinal use, as Germany lay in ruins and had not enough medicine. All through the spring and summer of the next couple of years we picked all sorts of wild herbal plants and dried them in the school's attic. As reward we got a few books for our library which had been totally destroyed when the school was packed with refugees. They probably used them as toilet paper!!
So, here we were, getting ready to pick the daisy heads. I started pretty much at the entrance of the meadow. Then I saw something brown sticking out of the ground... folded hands!! A German soldier from the year before when the Tommies had been moving them down with their onboard machine guns. Later I learned that he was from Westphalia and his wife had him brought home to be properly buried.

https://rense.com/general81/germm.htm

 

So you haven't seen any evidence to confirm that the nazi's created death camps and murdered over a million people by gassing them?

Perhaps you should spend time going thru the eichmann trial on youtube, if you aren't much a reader and haven't read say the Krackow Institute's analysis. Or perhaps the mountain of evidence from the various nazi document archives that have become public in recent years.

 

This is from 2009. It appears re-interest in the Bombing of Dresden (which I criticised in a recent post in the West Europe section) may have a co-relation with revival of neo nazism in Germany and the intent on bringing back past propaganda.

http://www.spiegel.de/international...hind-the-destruction-of-dresden-a-607524.html

 

There was also a strategic logic. In a war of industrial mass mobilisation disrupting the workforce and the communities that support it is one of the ways to cripple industry. It isn't necessary to kill them. Destroying their residences, transport systems, utilities etc. cuts away the support systems of the war machine.

Comes under the category of 'don't start something you can't finish'.....or in the case of Germany fundamentally misunderstood too.

 

I very much doubt that the disabled, Jehovah witnesses, homosexuals, dissidents, communists, Catholics - all Germans persecuted by the Nazis - stood behind Hitler. Or their families and friends.

There were more than 20 million Catholics in Germany in the 30s, so please don't start with "insignificant minorities".

Nazis didn't care about Germans. They only cared about their utopian brand of pure Aryan. By the way, their "perfect Aryan" poster child was Jewish...

I wonder if there were German pilots who felt some remorse for bombing trains packed with civilian refugees fleeing Bessarabia. Yes, I've met people who survived the bombings.

Arrogant Nazi leaders were so sure they'll win the war and conquer the world for their superior race, that they didn't bother to even think about protecting their own from the consequences of their actions. The blood of innocent German civilians is on Nazi hands.

 

Clearly there are still Germans who feel no remorse for the holocaust. Some of them even go so far as to invent lies about what happened rather than face what was done by their countrymen in the name of their country.

 

I've read enough of your fiction based vulgar & insulting puerile tantrums so that I just scanned this one very briefly.
Openly discussing the multiple facets of WW2 era Europe has nothing to do with "Jew hating" except in your hate filled imagination.

Additionally, angry and bombastic BS does little to hide your frightened insecurity in having your prize fairytale debunked.

When you are either mature or feel secure enough in the veracity of the fragile holocaustian lore in which you have been steeped to compose an articulate & even borderline civil response, I'll read it more carefully.

Meanwhile, if there were any truth to the standard holocaust narrative, Germany's WW2 High Command would not have armed 150,000 full Jews & "Mischlings" and promoted some to Germany's highest military ranks (Jewish Generals & Admirals) in command of entire "Aryan" Military Divisions, Brigades & war ships.

Take a few deep breaths & try again when you don't sound like a petulant & angry spoiled child whose favorite toy has been taken away.


“Hitler’s Jewish Army”
http://counterpsyops.com/2013/02/14/...-hitlers-army/

EXCERPT “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s knowledge and approval.

In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded(*)Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.

Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police(Ordnungdienst)(*)and concentration camp guards(*)(kapos).

So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?

“If the Jews were permitted to serve in Hitler’s armed forces then there could not have been a Holocaust.”CONTINUED