Gabbard rips Pelosi for delay of impeachment articles

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  1. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump has way more support than he did on election day in 2016.

    His Black support has more than doubled.

    He may even win the popular vote in 2020.
     
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    The Dem debates are an ongoing gold mine of material for the Trump campaign.
     
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    Huh?

    "All the Time"? :roflol:

    Where are you getting that from?

    I assume that you are referring to the U.S. Senate (since we are talking about a "Present" vote in the U.S. Congress)?

    Correct?

    If you are referring to Obama voting "Present" in the U.S. Senate...

    THEN, you are repeating a FALSE Claim (that has been debunked 1000x over).


    You may want to do a bit more research before repeating FALSE Claims (like that).

    Not a good look.

    Regarding Obama's Record as an ILLINOIS State Senator:

    Obama acknowledged voting "present" -- a vote similar in its effect to "abstain" -- 129 times during his eight-year state Senate tenure, according to a Boston Globe fact-check at the time. The Globe said that Obama cast about 4,000 votes as an Illinois legislator, meaning that he voted "present" in about one of every 31 votes he took.

    We checked all of Obama's votes in the U.S. Senate and found not a single "present" vote. That's not surprising, given the way Senate procedure works.

    "It’s very rare for a senator to vote 'present,' " said U.S. Senate historian Donald A. Ritchie. "That’s usually only if they are somehow personally involved in something."

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...says-obama-voted-present-us-senate-very-ofte/

    You're Welcome.:salute:
     
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    129 'present' votes in the state senate isn't a lot?
     
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  5. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I like good slogans too...

    Peace and Prosperity is catching on. I like Strength and Honor too.. Trump could claim either one.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ah, I see. You live in fantasy land. :lol:
     
  7. Andrew Jackson

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    129 "Present" Votes (in the ILLINOIS State Senate) out of over 4,000 votes cast?

    Roughly 3%.

    So, you are claiming that 3% qualifies as "all the time"?:roflol:

    ^And, in the U.S. Senate he NEVER voted "Present".

    Face it, you've LOST this one.

    Best to quit while your behind and move on.:salute:
     
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    What was the average number of 'present' votes in the IL Senate? I used to live there, and am proud to say I voted against him three times.
     
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    He doesn't know more, but he gets to say more. Mueller did his job within the limitations of what he perceived as DOJ protocol, his direct supervisors instructions, and his own conscience. Between the three walls those represented, he was pretty well boxed .
     
  11. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Total BS...

    Handy that the Mueller group spent a significant amount of time explaining in the report about how the Seth Rich murder was irrelevant to the Russian collusion narrative.

    Diffuse the real source while following a false flag where no evidence existed... Mossad did their job.

    Mueller served the purpose of acting as a firewall until Barr was confirmed and told him to cut the crap.
     
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    How would a mere "couple" of Republicans help, anyway? (Twenty are needed--even if all 47 Democrats march in lockstep.)
     
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    I agree with your second paragraph.

    But just how may she "ditch" this thing, anyway?

    It has already gone too far to merely be forgotten.

    And the far-left--which is now in control of the Democratic Party, anyway--simply would not allow that to happen.
     
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    4 GOP Senators could join the Dems. to "Set The Rules"

    That only requires 51 votes.

    And, even that is a longshot.
     
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    But 67 votes are needed for conviction in the Senate--whatever the other "rules" may be.
     
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    We're talking about impeachment, not a highway bill.
     
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    And obviously, by voting present Tulsi isn't on board.
     
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    2020 is likely, 2022 is up in the air.

    That wasn’t my question though [would it help your reading comprehension if I throw in three exclamation marks?]
     
  19. LangleyMan

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    I'd say not.
     
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    Oh, I’m just referring to calling witnesses and gaining evidence. Obviously, there will be no conviction unless the impeachment trial is open to both sides,
    Only 51 votes are needed for procedural changes.
     
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    The last three just seems that way.
     
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    good luck with that, even republican wish they had someone better then Trump
     
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    Of course....
    The single biggest threat to mankind on earth, is a worthwhile policy disagreement with the most stupid president ever elected to any free election anywhere. Being stupid and a criminal are good reasons to impeach trump.
     
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    Like any Trump follower, maybe if they just say something enough times, they can make it true.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope...

    2022 was settled by Republican gains in Florida and Missouri. Both states are solid past 2022.
     

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