Game Over -- Russia and Syria Work a Deal on Chemical Weapons

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    I had a good belly laugh when I saw his Christian nation accusation specifically. I think of myself as a militant atheist these days, and in fact walked away from Christianity 3 or so years ago already.

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    But that isn't (demonstrably) a lie.
     
  2. Mayerling

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    So you are the liar it seems.
     
  3. Mayerling

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    You said that he stated that he did not have chemical weapons. "Alluded" is subjective on your part. If you wish to be taken seriously pls be accurate and truthful in what you post. Esp.since you are so quick to accuse others of lying.
     
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    We havent yet even begun to supply weapons. Thats been a long list of other countries doing so. Revealing that you only blame the US. Are you a Muslim?
     
  5. AmericanNationalist

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    Nothing was proven false, quite to the contrary the only reason the federal government was put into place, was to limit the risk of anarchy. But the Founders absolutely believed in States. And those 10 amendments were the key for the Federal Government that you love so much to exist in the first place.

    Have you ever read the Federalist Papers? The Founders would have never approved of the War Powers Act. Without those amendments, the people would have lost all confidence in the Federal Government before it even began.

    You know nothing of this Great Continent's history, you're not an American in the slightest sense. You, and the millions among you are utterly unqualified for the gift of citizenship that was so bestowed upon you.
     
  6. AmericanNationalist

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    The CIA filed to supply weapons to the Rebels http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/15/world/middleeast/no-quick-impact-in-us-arms-plan-for-syria-rebels.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    But it seems, just like with everything else this Administration got cold feet.

    Thank god for that, but let it be said that we as Americans must always watch over our government. And that lashing out at Jack because of a supposition wasn't necessarily needed.
     
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    Ten years ago I said it would take 20 years to recover from Bush's incompetence. I've changed that to 20 years from NOW.
     
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    Well it is an excellent diplomat step, especially as it seems to becoming through the UN. It is really a win win situation for all parties
     
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    Who is lashing out at Jack? And Jacks suppositions are Jacks reality.
     
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    Hang on. Looks like Obama and Kerry is not going to except the Putin and Assad chemical weapons deal. Seems like Obama wants war no matter what.


    US Refuses To Admit Checkmate By Russia And Syria, Redirects Purpose Of Military Incursion: Admits Regime Change Intention

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-...nd-syria-redirects-purpose-military-incursion
     
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    And we shouldn't be surprised why? As I said earlier, we have a rogue regime inside the United States. And it has MILLIONS of Anti-American supporters to boot.
     
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    I would strongly suggest Putin saved Obama's bacon for him. The stupid prick was out on a limb of his own making and Putin showed the way out.

    Now who do you think will have more clout in the middle east? Who will the world be more inclined to listened to, a "reasonable" Putin who can negotiate, or a reckless Obama who draws red lines before he knows whether he has the support, insists he will go ahead if he doesn't, and blames the asinine "red line" an asinine, Bush- bravado bit of stupidity on them?

    The rock star is fading...and remember, Putin will be president of Russia after Obama is gone
     
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    Likely a bargaining ploy to make it look like Obama actually has a say in this.

    Does anyone really think that congress will give an OK with a Putin-backed deal pending?

    I do not. And if Obama STILL goes ahead with Putin, Britain, Canada, Germany, Poland, France and others opposed, with a Russian backed deal pending, along with congress then we're all (*)(*)(*)(*)ed anyway as this guy is going for total global thermal nuclear war.
     
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    And what if our esteemed president says no?
     
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    Obama is an even bigger fool if he says no now.
     
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    I'd be shocked if Russia and Assad keep their side of the bargain and Obama still bombs Syria. Granted, anything can and does happen in international politics; but this agreement Putin came up with pretty much puts the whole fear of future gassings to bed. I think the UN should still bring up charges of crimes against humanity against both sides; but it's not like either side would ever stand trial.
     
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    With stockpiles old and dwindling on all sides of the fence, I really don't imagine anything beyond a few tactical nukes being used during a regional military action. Just so many ways to level a country with conventional weapons these days - look how effective we were during Desert Storm. We absolutely crushed Iraq and lost less people than are hit by lightning on golf courses while taking out a half million Iraqi bad guys.
     
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    The INTL.Community loses all merit when a few nations can vote or veto for something or not. It's the kind of vague hopefulness that we humans tend to have, thinking that something so fragile has meaning. Survival of the Fittest may very well be what rules our Human Ecosystem.
     
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    I don't care what the founding fathers would think today. Its a much different time nowadays than it was 200 years ago. And the federalist papers are NOT law. Also I don't care what you think about me.
     
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    there are in Germany only Mrs. Merkel rules the country others like a minister of foreign affairs ,they are nothing.
     
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    Can you at least promise me you won't vote? I disagree with the President on the notion that everyone should vote. People who aren't qualified to vote, shouldn't vote.
     
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    Russia and Syria do have the common bond of murdering their own citizenry....

    Vermin tend to stick together.
     
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    I will be voting in 2013's NJ elections and special election (corey booker of course) and will be voting in 2014. Most likely Democrat down the line unless an independent or sane republican runs.
     
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    Haven't you had enough of hitting your head proverbially on the brick wall? What have the Dems ever done for you? What have they ever done for this country besides stab it in the back?
     
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