Gaza death toll over 1,000 - Israeli toll up to 42

Theft and genocide determine what is right and wrong.. unless the Israelis are so special that the law doesn't apply to them. They were refugees if you recall and there was no sanctuary for them except in Palestine... so they immediately set out to expel the native Palestinians.. Nice.

 

Hamas works for Israel? Are you really that deluded?

 

There have been many instances over the years of Jewish infiltrators into Hamas.......

 

Once again, start a new thread on this subject. My first post was a reply to the idea that counting casualties in and of itself is all that is needed to determine who is in the right in a conflict. Your propaganda above doesn't address that point. It's a separate subject in need of a new thread.

 

And Britain had infiltrators into Nazi Germany during WWII, does that mean Germany was working for Britain? LOL

 

Israel doesn't have the right to exist, it's a failed State when Britain sold it off to the highest bidder, left it to the UN and completely ignored it thereafter. Unlike India, which had been granted its independence.

The UN Parition Plan was equally stupid: "We'll carve up the country into majorities where you live". This didn't do anything for those who had been misplaced by those majorities, so they had the right to declare war.

What gives a Jew the right to Palestinian homes? Nothing more than our compliance and silence, without which Zionism wouldn't have been born. Equally, then and now that silence comes from the Religious Right. Ignorant as it regards history, ignorant regarding INTL.Law, it allows Israel to bomb civilians into dust.

As long as the Religious Right exists, 'Israel' will continue to defy the laws and the humanities. As long as the Religious Right exists, we will fight 'religious wars'.
As long as Israel harbors racism, Israel will never find peace.

 

That is an expectation not the rule

 

Yet Israel is the only democratic state in the area and Hamas is waging a religious war against Jews. Is it only an Islamic theocracy that you approve of? Arabs can hold seats in the Knesset, do you think there are any Jews in Hamas?

 

That has to deal Hamas shooting rockets how?

 

Yet now it's the most socially successful state in the region, where are you going with this?

 

Not really. It just shows they're, [Palestinians], outmatched and stupid for their repeated attacks on a superior neighbor.

 

If Hamass would turn over the criminal terrorists Israel would try them but Hamass hides their weapons in schools according to the UN... Israel calls the schools and anyone living near the school and tells them to leave but living in Gaza sucks so bad that they would rather die as martyrs and see if their god is real.

 

Going by the barometers of its neighbors, that's nothing to brag about. We surpassed Israel's "wealth", oh maybe around the 1800's lol. We're certainly far more cultivated. Don't see us indiscriminately bombing women and children. It's a failed state that the British dumped and now we're trying to deal with it.

 

Is any of this meant to be taken seriously?

Alright let's begin with the issue of comparative wealth and quality of life disparities in the region. Here Israel clearly takes the cake, and it should also be noted that Israel hold its own not only when compared to its neighbours but also Western states for that matter. Allow me to put forward some examples. Israel has a higher HDI score than Spain or France, lower wealth disparity than the United States furthermore the only reason it stacks up poorly to the west on stability is due to its location in a volatile region marred by constant conflict. This aside, other calculations don't support the theory that Israel has the hallmarks of a "failed state", quite on the contrary, the evidence seems to suggest that as opposed to being on the brink of collapse Israel is a socially and economically stable state.

On the topic of American economic superiority I trust I don't need to lecture you why a state with a comparatively small population, suffering from underinvestment, lacking natural resources to drive growth would be economically inferior. It's astounding that you would think the US and Israel's respective economic success could be comparable. As for the indiscriminate bombing fact an analysis of Israeli tactics would suggest you are either completely uninformed or a blatant liar.

 

I approve of the right to Self-Determination and Humanitarian government. One only needs to read reports of Jewish Racism to see what kind of 'democracy' it is. In reality, Netanyahu called it a "Jewish State", in short a theocracy. Which it was in its inception, which it is today and it will always be a theocracy.

The economic blockade of the area is an act of warfare. Equally true is allowing infrastructure to be a military target, that's a war crime. Not to condone HAMAS's actions. We can simply say that the Palestinian is caught between two barbaric "actors", negotiating a 'truce' between the warring parties is impossible.

The situation is not at all different from the Koreans, in which case the U.S/U.N need to enforce a demilitarized zone between the two. Israel has lost her legitimacy, she never had it to begin with much to our misfortune.

 

Hey! I got a brilliant idea. If Hamas stopped firing rockets into Israel, then Israel wouldn't be firing rockets back and there wouldn't be any deaths on either side.

Problem solved!

 

Posts #131 and #138 prove that freedom of speech extends to lies.

The responses prove that that freedom of speech involves no right to be taken seriously.

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Taxcutter says:
It seems so simple and straightforward...

 

So why do you think economic blockades are put in place? Usually to quell aggression. First thing Hamas did when Israel gave back the Gaza strip was to start firing rockets from it.

 

You sure that kind of simple pacifism will work out any better for Native Palestinians than it did for Native Americans?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears

 

Then displace HAMAS and get it over with, or better yet proclaim Palestine an Israeli Protectorate. Why do innocents have to die for the 'security' of Israel? Why is it impossible for them to conduct themselves as a Western Nation?

Let me sum it up like this: Put US in the same situation and would we resolve it differently? We have, with the Native American settlements and albeit misguided but we brought the South back(Reconstruction's greatest flaw was that Northern Democrats didn't want to listen).

And up until 1970, we successfully ended Mexican confrontations(then, as we now know they have begun a stealth economic campaign against us)

PS. History doesn't lie. I just happen to be an impartial, angry Westerner that we give them billions and they can't even govern.

 

Obvious to every anti-Semite, anti-American and anti-Western civilization fellow out there but absolutely lost to the forces of civilization.

 

barbarians do not need reason to attack symbols of civilization.

 

You assume they are supposed to govern Gaza when Hamas is in charge. They govern Israel quite well. When did you ever think that war is supposed to be nice and tidy? Would a proportionate response be for Israel to fire thousands of rockets indiscriminately into Gaza like Hamas does into Israel?

 

Don't worry, when the USA becomes as ineffectual and irrelevant as what is left of the UK, the revisionist historians will be happy indeed.

 

Israel is not using human shields, which is against international law.

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So idiots will jump to the stupid conclusion that dead civilian must mean evil baddies killed them.