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  1. Anansi the Spider

    Anansi the Spider Well-Known Member

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    The abortion industry is a key tool of freedom-hating elite racists who want to exterminate the poor. The decadent upper classes fail to reproduce. In order to retain their privileges they must engage in population reduction: promoting forced sterilization, the abortion industry, war.

    The Population Control Holocaust

    American eugenics and the Nazi connection

    EUGENICS AND THE PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT

    Billionaires For Eugenics

    John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet
     
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    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which particular élite freedom-hater did you meet, plotting behind the arras? Try having sixteen children on the average industrial wage, or whatever unemployment benefit your greedy mad masters allow you over there, kid, and then come back to us with a reporet.
     
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    Anansi the Spider Well-Known Member

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    The ruling class is desperate to keep wages as low as possible. Low wages mean more pressure on working folk to stop having kids. Elites (and you apparently) applaud when working folk fail to enjoy healthy population growth. Another method to disempower working people.
     
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    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Low wages depend on an over-plus of labour, with workers competing.
     
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    Anansi the Spider Well-Known Member

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    A larger population means more demand for goods and more employment.
     
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    No. More workers means more unemployment, because more people are competing for the same amount of jobs. Ever heard the term "reserve army of labour"? Not to mention the effects of automation displacing human labor, which will only increase in the future thanks to technological progress.

    Larger population means more demand for goods only when the population is wealthy, and not poor people.

    Good, but there is far more to good quality of life than having your stomach full.
     
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    The eugenics/pro-abortion movement is rife with racists.

    1) Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, was an ardent eugenicist who wanted to exterminate the handicapped, the poor, and non-whites.

    quote from Sanger: "As an advocate of birth control I wish ... to point out that the unbalance between the birth rate of the 'unfit' and the 'fit,' admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization, can never be rectified by the inauguration of a cradle competition between these two classes. In this matter, the example of the inferior classes, the fertility of the feeble-minded, the mentally defective, the poverty-stricken classes, should not be held up for emulation.... On the contrary, the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective."
    The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda", October 1921, page 5.

    another quote from Sanger: "We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
    Margaret Sanger's December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble

    2) "Above all, society must grasp the grim relationship between unwanted children and the violent rebellion of minority groups."
    - Lawrence Lader, co-founder of the National Association for the Repeal
    of Abortion Laws. Breeding Ourselves to Death [New York: Ballantine Books, 1971], page 23.

    Lawrence Lader was not a marginal figure, he was one of the founders of NARAL!

    3) The best-seller Freakonomics made a similar argument.

    4) And check out this article: Pro-Life Advocates Take Justice Ginsburg to Task for Racist Abortion Comments

    5) More racism from the abortion industry: Abortions earmarked by race
     
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    Anansi the Spider Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to see working folk earning a decent wage wouldn't you?

    So you think only the elite can live full lives? What kind of sociopath are you?
     
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    Yes, I would. Unfortunately, wanting something does not make it true.

    How did you inferred this from what I wrote? Of course I want all people to live full lives. I just pointed out that your argument that we have enough food is insufficient to prove that we have enough other resources to give everyone good quality of life (comparable to that in the developed west). And if thats the case, then we need to reduce our population, there is no other option - of course, I support only voluntary reduction by non-violent means.
     
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    What exactly do the rich elite gain by having less minions?

    People with a better education and economic standing tend to have less children and more family planning. Family planning can help break the cycle of poverty as children are expensive and time consuming (especially when parents take their role seriously to provide them with as many opportunities as possible to become successful adults). I am all for helping out poverty stricken areas with family planning so that people have the opportunity to be responsible and better themselves and their families.

    As far as racial birth rates stats, who cares about that (*)(*)(*)(*) beside racists?
     
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    Please tell we why wages must be low when population is high. Do you admit that many densely populated countries (Belgium and the Netherlands for example) have high wages?

    I wonder 1) Does consumerism mean a better life? and 2) What other resources are in short supply?
     
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    Because of the laws of supply and demand - more supply of labor means price of labor will decrease. Belgium and Netherlands have negative birth rate overall. But even in these countries areas with higher population growth such as immigrant suburbs have lower quality of life and higher unemployment rate than areas where population does not grow that fast.

    Generally yes.

    Fossill fuels, minerals.. But most importantly, the knowledge and political will to change and improve things.
     
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    When working people grow in numbers and strength they lose their fear, they throw off their servile status.

    Some rich countries are decadent, but not all. Rich people do tend toward hedonism and a flaccid birth rate, but I don't think this is inevitable.

    Can you prove your statement? Perhaps it's not your role to tell parents how many children they can have. Many parents with a large family do a great job!

    Those who you seem to be defending.
     
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    Population is not growing in first world countries.

    In underdeveloped countries (where population is growing) larger population means more pollution.
     
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    Do Belgium and the Netherlands (and Japan) have high population density? Yes or no? Do they have high wages? Yes or no?

    What minerals are in short supply? Are there no substitutes? Does everyone have to drive a Lexus? If they can't afford one should you kill them because you deem their quality of life inadequate?
     
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    Israel tries to cull the population of People of Color: Israeli racist birth control policy toward its Ethiopian population

    quote: Health officials in Israel are subjecting many female Ethiopian immigrants to a controversial long-term birth control drug in what Israeli women’s groups allege is a racist policy to reduce the number of black babies.

    The contraceptive, known as Depo Provera, which is given by injection every three months, is considered by many doctors as a birth control method of last resort because of problems treating its side effects.

    However, according to a report published last week, use of the contraceptive by Israeli doctors has risen threefold over the past few years. Figures show that 57 per cent of Depo Provera users in Israel are Ethiopian, even though the community accounts for less than two per cent of the total population.

    About 90,000 Ethiopians have been brought to Israel under the Law of Return since the 1980s, but their Jewishness has subsequently been questioned by some rabbis and is doubted by many ordinary Israelis.

    Ethiopians are reported to face widespread discrimination in jobs, housing and education and it recently emerged that their blood donations were routinely discarded.
     
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    Yes, relatively. Your point?

    Phosphates for example:
    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=phosphorus-a-looming-crisis

    Who the hell talks about killing?

    Yes. Or you think only the elite can live full lives? What kind of sociopath are you? :p

    Who the hell talks about killing? Education, women empowerment, widely available family planning and reproductive health services.. Not killing people.
     
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    So your belief that "More workers means more unemployment," is not always true.

    According to the website you linked to: "Readily available global supplies may start running out by the end of this century." So let's not panic just yet! The website adds: "Reducing soil erosion and recycling phosphorus from farm and human waste could help make food production sustainable". So I think the problem is solvable.

    I've provided lots of links about the the sinister plans of our "Enlightened" overlords. They not only talk about killing, they kill.

    You think only a Lexus owner can lead a full life?! lol I'd be happy to see more redistribution of $$$$$ from the Haves to the Have-Nots. How about you?

    Our twisted elites employ propaganda, economic pressure, and the abortion industry in order to cull People of Color, working people in general. Women's lives are endangered. Those that resist are sometimes killed. Of course millions of innocent unborn babies are killed, sometimes the babies are tortured to death, denied the most fundamental human rights. Why would you serve as apologist for these plutocrats?
     
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    Yes it is true. Its just that different countries have different levels of economic development, so the ability to sustain people with good quality of life is different (in absolute numbers). But increasing the number of people always means decreasing the value of labor and increasing unemployment compared to what would happen without it, all other things being equal.

    Consuming less is always better for resource conservation. Quality over quantity.

    No. Even if we take your conspiracy theory links as true, you have provided proof that elites advocate sterilisations, birth control and abortions. None of these kills any persons. Its just preventing reproduction, not killing people.

    I would like to make all people "filthy rich".

    As long as they are not being forced, I have nothing against it. There is nothing wrong with abortion, no matter which race is the fetus. Abortion helps People of Color because having unwanted children is bad, especially when being poor, which many PoCs are.

    Perhaps in China.

    Fetuses are not persons.

    I serve as apologist for the right to freely available abortion and other reproductive services for all, no matter their race or wealth. Thats equality.

    What is your alternative?
     

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