Germany confesses ' special responsibility for Israel '

But you immedediately do so below!

This term, is of course Lunatical.
And if anyone "is rabid, has rabies"... it's mondoLice.

Japanese Morality
The Global Humanitarian Report (p.112) specifies that the Palestinians receive more aid Per Capita than anyone else on Planet Earth – but have yet to build an infrastructure and rely on Israel for basics.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/10575#.U2xG-vldVZ8


And my quick estimate/averaging men/women from another source below is that the West Bank and Gaza, with our (US/EU/UNRWA) help was was actually app 6th in the world in Obesity in 2010.
The Peak of 'Privation,' and 'Flotillas.'

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That is... app 1/3 of West-bankers/Gazans are Obese.
Higher than in the USA, and flanked mostly by Oil Rich Gulf states.
Which is obviously NOT to say all is was/rosy in Palestine, but I think interesting/poignant nonetheless.
But I have never seen Obesity as a problem in ANY other "Concentration Camp."
And again, this was during the Peak of 'Privation,' and 'Flotillas.'

The usual Loony Tune website
Take a peek.
https://www.corbettreport.com/

So as always: EVERY post is merely an excuse for at least two Dubious anti-'Israel'/'anti-Holocaust'/etc link dumps.

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Send FREE cigarettes to poor Palestinian people !
Support the American Tobacco producers.
It's Win-Win!

Parrish 1961. All tobacco is not from the Middle Colonies. Connecticut too.


And the real history of cigarettes, Bright Leaf 1950


It's the American way.
Like blankets to Indians from the Puritans and ever after.

Send commodities and not cash!

 

Of course you were.
I am not minimizing anything. Jews is not a political designation as anyone following Israeli politics will attest. I am also well aware of the over the top hyperbolic language used by pro palestinians.

Concentration camp? yet another FALSE EQUIVALENCY. and a damn stupid one at that.

The whole "ethnic cleansing" thing might hold actual water except for one small but rather significant disqualifier - 1.8 million arab Israeli citizens. Now if you said - the settlement program is land theft - we'd be on the same page, but no, you and the palestinians use sensational labels to elicit emotional responses. Typical propaganda and it seems you have no trouble regurgitating it.

I am vehemently defensive of the truth. Does that clear things up for you?

 

You are the only one throwing insults. You can't deal with reality and so you resort to the " You guys hate Jews nonsense".

You have not managed to address one of my claim.

 

It's clear to me that you hold a fatuous double standard by which the lives of Jews are more valuable than non Jews.

Of course the Nakba was an ethnic cleansing as is asserted by such scholars IIan Pappe' and others.
Operations Cast Lead, Pillar of Cloud, Cutting Edge etc were all planned well in advance and were OFFENSIVE Operations that indiscriminately massacred thousands of innocent civilians and targeted life sustaining infrastructure.
Additionally, Israel's criminal Settlements policy is more than "Land Theft" because the land is being stolen from only one group of people
Just because there are 1.8 million Nakba survivors in Israel, now, does not negate the fact that the Nakba was an ethnic cleansing then for which the Palestinians are due reparations.
Germany, now, has a thriving Jewish(1) community. Does that mean that there was not an ethnic cleansing earlier?
Your "qualifier" doesn't hold water nor is an ethnically selective double standard truthful

"The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ethnic_Cleansing_of_Palestine

EXCERPT "The thesis of the book is that the forced move of Palestinians to the Arab world was an objective of the Zionist movement and a must for the desired character of the Jewish state. According to Pappé, the 1948 Palestinian exodus resulted from a planned ethnic cleansing of Palestine that was implemented by the Zionist movement leaders, mainly David Ben-Gurion and the other ten members of his "consultancy group" as referred to by Pappé. The book argues that the ethnic cleansing was put into effect through systematic expulsions of about 500 Arab villages, as well as terrorist attacks executed mainly by members of the Irgun and Haganah troops against the civilian population. Ilan Pappé also refers to Plan Dalet and to the village files as a proof of the planned expulsions."CONTINUED

• (1) "In Germany, a Jewish community now thrives"
• https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion...now-thrives/fcPnmnfpbLQ0hM1A6zDyNN/story.html
• EXCERPT "The Germany of today is a different place, particularly in Berlin, where 45,000 Jewish residents now live. Waves of immigrants have arrived every decade since the war ended. Most recently large numbers of young Israelis are moving here, attracted by arts, culture, and a more reasonable cost of living. Ironically they live quite peaceably in the same emerging neighborhoods as young Muslim emigres. CONTINUED

 

Find me one nation whose members always agree with their government's policies. This is not a Jewish issue.

In other breaking old tired news, MSM is usually anti-Israel.

 

I'm afraid that the reality is that MSM is blatantly pro Israel thats the reason that the majority of Americans agree with Israel.
However, with the advent of the internet & Independent media that support for Israel is eroding

“U.S. media coverage reveals a pro-Israel bias”
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2014/09/01/commentary/world-commentary/u-s-media-coverage-reveals-a-pro-israel-bias/#.WMLm5mafK_U

EXCERPT “Why does TV news look like a Netanyahu ad?” asked Chris McGreal of The Guardian on July 31, in his article on the “notoriously pro-Israel mainstream media in the U.S.”

In fact, three main dailies here from mid-July to mid-August easily gave the impression that U.S. President Barack Obama, not Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, was prosecuting a war against the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. The U.S. State Department continues to list the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) as a terrorist organization.
Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal dispelled any doubt about which side it was on. On Aug. 2-3, its Review section gave a two-page spread — “In Defense of Zionism” — against an oversize photo of a flag-raising ceremony in Israel, in 1948.”CONTINUED


“Journalists blast NY Times for pro-Israel bias and “grotesque” distortion of illegal occupation of Palestine”
http://www.salon.com/2016/05/26/journalists_blast_ny_times_for_grotesque_pro_israel_bias_and_distortion_of_illegal_occupation_of_palestine/

EXCERPT “The Times regularly fails to mention that the Palestinian territories have been illegally occupied by Israel since 1967. It often uses euphemistic language to describe Israel’s illegal activity, dubbing lands unlawfully seized by Israel in violation of international law “disputed” territory.

Rights activists have been so frustrated by the publication’s skewed reporting that, in February, activists from progressive Jewish human rights groups created a very convincing-looking fake edition of the Times to protest its coverage of Israel-Palestine.”CONTINUED


“Studies continually show strong pro-Israel bias in western media”
http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/studies-continually-show-strong-pro-israel-bias-western-media-881718416

 

MSM is mostly owned by Jews ? What are you talking about ?

The Jewish people (like here in the US) speaking out against their Gov'ts oppression of the Palestinians are "Pro-Israel" not anti Israel.

A Patriot is not one who keeps mouth shut when Gov't is doing bad things. A Patriot is one who speaks up ! It is the ignorant raging masses who call this Patriot "anti American" who are the real "anti-American's".

 

Nice try but, the UN and virtually every other human rights organization is calling the situation in Gaza a Humanitarian Crisis due to the blockade.

Further, not only is this blockade responsible or this humanitarian crisis but, it is an act of war.

 

RE:

I agree with your entire Post and especially speaking up when your government is screwing up (i.e. our counterproductive, Zionist dominated Mid East Policy)

If you have a friend who is screwing up, you do him a disservice to meekly stand by & watch him self destruct.

 

Those who choose sides in a blood feud only perpetuate that blood feud.

This link sends most of the "one side is innocent crowd" to the playground screaming "NO NO NO" followed by sticking head deep in the sandbox of denial.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/sep/25/israel

 

Err...

https://unsco.unmissions.org/sites/...al_coordinator_mladenov_-_22_october_2017.pdf

Nice Palestinian unity government

The Palestinians are backed by 50 Muslim majority countries and oil-thirsty EU. Boycotts and embargoes are powerful weapons, you know. Europe is not likely to forget the oil embargoes of the 70s in the foreseeable future.

 

Additionally,"obesity" is not the opposite of starvation, malnutrition is.

Israel's form of ethnic cleansing is different from most previous ethnic cleanings in that it is slower, more insidious & uses everything from pesticides to D.U (depleted uranium), N.D.U., D.I.M.E. bombs to raw sewage.

Perhaps the most insidious weapon has been the enormous amount of D.U. that infects ground water and spreads throughout the region via radioactive dust. Its impossible to calculate the additional number of Palestinians who have died or been born with birth defects from this D.U.

It is a tragic irony that some of the nearby Settlements are becoming affected by the same radioactive dust that knows no borders & experiencing birth malformations resulting from Israeli D.U. ordinance.


- “DEMONSTRATING THE HARMFUL EFFECTS CAUSED THROUGH THE ILLEGAL ISRAELI SETTLEMENT PRACTICE OF DUMPING WASTEWATER ONTO PALESTINIAN AGRICULTURAL LANDS”
http://www.arij.org/latest-news/479-...ral-lands.html


- "Depleted uranium weapons used by Israel on Gaza Strip"
https://nuclear-news.net/2015/03/25/depleted-uranium-weapons-used-by-israel-on-gaza-strip/

EXCERPT "ISRAELI NUCLEAR WAR ON GAZA using Depleted Uranium weapons from USA NUCLEAR WAR ON THE WORLD, Beautiful Bloodless Revolution, by aRLeon, 25 Mar 15 Israel over the last 6 years during the 3 Gaza invasions of 2008-2009, 2012, and 2014 has dumped a huge amount of Depleted Uranium (DU) on the Palestinian territory of Gaza Strip. The 50 day 2014 operation dispersed the largest amount of DU by way of bunker buster bombs and other undisclosed DU armaments, such as DIME mini bomb-lets etc.

In the future the chances of the people living in the dispersal zone will acquire cancers, birth defects , still births, and other known, unknown or untraceable and undiagnosable diseases. And furthermore with the Israeli War Crime of destroying hospitals, the Palestinians have hardly any medical access."CONTINUED



"Israel’s Toxic Pesticides Poison Palestine, Reports Find"
http://panap.net/2017/02/israels-toxic-pesticides-poison-palestine-reports-find/

EXCERPT " Israel’s Illegal Production, Trade And Dumping Of Toxic Pesticides Violate Human Rights, Threaten Food Sovereignty In Occupied West Bank

February 20 (Amman, Jordan) ¬– The illegal trade and the manufacture and use of toxic pesticides in Israeli illegal settlements, result in serious human rights violations and contribute to the food insecurity in the Occupied West Bank. This was the conclusion of a joint fact-finding mission led by the Arab Group for the Protection of Nature (APN) and the PAN Asia Pacific (PANAP)."CONTINUED

 

What does oil have to do with the Palestinian Israeli issue other than ZERO ? Talk about red herring. I am not the one choosing one side and ignoring the atrocities of the other. This is a blood feud and, as is the case with all blood feuds, both sides do nasty things.

Choosing sides a blood feud only serves to perpetuate the feud.

 

Yup ... it is not for nothing that the UN, almost every humanitarian organization on the planet, most first world nations, Jewish groups living in Israel, and even the IDF are criticizing the neocon Zionist regime for its oppression and human rights violations on the Palestinians.

 

A case of clarity not reflecting reality. Rather intriguing state.

I agree removal of some palestinian arabs from their lands did take place.

So now you confuse military operations with ethnic cleansing. Amazingly disingenuous propaganda. that is typical.

NO its land theft. Guess what Nakba was the humiliating military defeat of the arabs. That many either fled or were forced out and not allowed to return had as much to do with the fact that the Arabs REFUSED any peace agreement.

Now I realize that in that position you would have welcomed all those mortal enemies back to their homes despite the fact that the entire arab world was jumping up and down screaming for the obliteration of your nation. Makes perfect sense to the senseless I suppose.

OTOH, I also recognize how easy it is to dismiss contemporaneous conditions when examining things in hindsight.

I happen to agree that the palestinians should receive reparations. It wouldnt cost the Israeli's more than a 20 billion or so.

You forget a small detail. The jewish community in German are virtually all immigrants. The arab community in Israel are all indigent.[/quote]

 

Olei Hagardom:

SHLOMO BEN-YOSEF - Born as Shalom Tabachnik on May 7, 1913, in Poland.

ELIYAHU HAKIM - was born in 1925 in Beirut. At the age of seven his family immigrated to Eretz Israel, and settled in Haifa.

ELIYAHU BEIT-ZURI - Born in 1922 in Tel Aviv to a distinguished family which had lived in Eretz Israel for many generations.

DOV GRUNER - Born on December 6, 1912, in Hungary.

MORDECHAI ALKAHI - Born in Petah Tikva on March 10, 1925 into a poor family of Turkish origin.

YEHIEL DRESNER - born in Poland on October 13, 1922,

ELIEZER KASHANI - Born in Petah Tikva on March 13, 1923, into a large, working class family, which had been in Eretz Israel for three generations. [Kashani is a Persian name, his family probably immigrated from Iran]

MOSHE BARAZANI - Born on June 20, 1928 in Iraq.

MEIR FEINSTEIN - Born on October 5, 1927, in the Old City of Jerusalem to religious parents.

AVSHALOM HAVIV - Born on June 18, 1926 in Haifa.

YAAKOV WEISS - Born in Czechoslovakia

MEIR NAKAR - Born in Jerusalem on July 26, 1926, to a poor family of Iraqi origin.

Eight out of 12 were not Europeans.

Pfftt.

 

Meanwhile, of all those signing Israel's declaration of Independence ONLY ONE was from the Region

 

which has nothing to do with your false statement

 

But it does speak to the FOREIGN, Western make up of Israel. M. Begin, A. Stern, Jabotinsky etc were all European Zionist terrorist leaders

 

yes a number of them were terrorists. They even fought amongst themselves as you well know. In fact they were considered criminals by just about everyone INCLUDING their fellow "freedom fighters".

 

Can you post what was said and who said it please.

 

It has everything to do with European countries attitude toward Israel.

http://www.history.com/topics/energy-crisis

Today Netherlands is one of the main sponsors of far left anti-Zionist NGOs in Israel. How the mighty have fallen...

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-envoy-chides-hamas-leaders-for-urging-israels-destruction/
“Over is the time Hamas spent discussing recognizing Israel. Now Hamas will discuss when we will wipe out Israel,” Sinwar said, according to the Hamas-linked news agency Shehab.

https://twitter.com/UNSCO_MEPP/status/922100390153383937
UNSCO
@UNSCO_MEPP

#UN Envoy @nmladenov condemns statements by #Hamas calling 4 #Israel destruction. They dont serve peace & goal of achieving a negotiated 2SS

 

1) Netherlands is just one country
2) Netherlands does not condemn Israeli atrocities and oppression of Palestinians on the basis of something that happened 40 years ago ... they condemn Israeli atrocities and oppression because it is atrocity and oppresion
3) this has nothing to do with the rest of Europe ... they condemn Israeli atrocities and oppression of Palestinians because it is atrocity and oppression

4) The reason Jewish groups in Israel are against their Gov't's atrocity and oppression ... is because it is atrocity and oppression.
5) The UN calls out Israel on violating the agreement's by which it came into existence ... because Israel is violating agreements by which it came into existence.