Germany nixes US request to join naval mission off Iran

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  1. Sobo

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    We could just give them 20 kg Plutonium from our 2500 tons and you would not go to war with them.

    Wohoo. If Germany and France would have swinged on your side you would have attacked them.
     
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    How are you neutralizing sanctions in Cuba and in Iran? The latest data is showing that German exports to Iran are down 49 percent. Iran is being strangled.
     
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    Due to the sanctions that Iran was violating.
     
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    Which still means 51% is running. Now Instex starts and we plan oil Imports large scale.

    Oh you want strangle Iran? We now want genocide?
     
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    There are no sanctions. Iran is not EU member. UK acted by Order of USA. EU said Iran is not bound to EU sanctions. Spain humilated UK even more by openly saying UK acted on US orders. Iran was right to take a british ship
     
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    https://www.jpost.com/International/Germany-Iran-trade-collapses-under-US-sanctions-report-593964

    You will import oil from Russia or from the US because of the sanctions on Iran.

    Iran is responsible for their own actions. If Iran wants sanctions removed, they can stop exporting terrorism, seizing tankers, sabotaging tankers in international waters and stop enriching uranium. They only have themselves to blame.
     
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    So Iran is responsible for their own actions.
     
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    Whoever mined those UAE tankers, did it in a very calibrated way to make sure there would be only limited damage to the tanker so we wouldn't have an oil spill or casualties to the crew. And if a message was intended, it was a peaceful message that -- in conjunction with Iran downing the US done and retaliating to the British piracy by seizing one of their tankers -- was apparently effective in making the UAE rethink its anti Iran policies and lobbying (even the Saudis have been quieter than usual and are beginning to realize things better).
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...s-u-a-e-rethink-of-its-regional-entanglements
    Risk of Iran Conflict Forces U.S. Gulf Ally to Rethink Policy
    https://www.apnews.com/49c6da1c33fd45bbaf1b14836ee5e2ec
    UAE and Iran hold rare talks in Tehran on maritime security

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/why-uae-needs-ease-tensions-iran
    The UAE steps back from the abyss with Iran
     
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    Iran did it, we know that. Iran has been the world's leader in exporting terrorism and in attempts to disrupt shipping in the Gulf. Iran can lie about it, but we know what is going on.
     
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    They have the right to enrich uranium. You want say they cant have nuclear power?

    Saudi Arabia Supports terrorism.

    And No, we plan importing oil from Iran worth 60 Billion €. We have no sanctions on iran
     
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    I am pretty sure Iran's revolutionary guards did it, but it was done very carefully to send a message without blowing things out of proportion. It would have been self defeating for Iran to admit it since it would escalate things while forcing those who are unhappy with America's policy against Iran to take an anti Iran stance. Otherwise, those who were the intended recipients of the message, received it and are in Tehran now trying to extricate themselves out of this mess.
     
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    German BND says USA mined the ships
     
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    Nobody sane would ever say that and we all know Iran did it.
     
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    Why you say "we"? Germany and France obviously is not "we". We see you as war mongering terror supporter.
     
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    Iran either botched it up or they did minimal damage intentionally just to send a message. If Iran wants a way out of the mess they are in, it's very simple: Stop exporting terrorism and stop enriching uranium. Gulf States, the US, Europe and everyone else would love to do business in Iran.

    The leadership at the top will never let it happen, because it means they lose control of their power in the country. They keep a very tight grip, intentionally, on how Iran conducts business.
     
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    Iran has a right to enrich uranium. You cant power a nuclear power plant without enriched uranium.

    Beside that Europe does business with Iran. We even start Instex now to push US sanctions Out of way

    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-07/30/c_138269377.htm
     
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    We also neutralized the war mongering by Germany - twice.
     
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    For now, unfortunately, that is not the case. But fortunately the Germans are riled up enough with America's bullying that I can see them begin to take steps to cut off America's ability to dictate things on behalf of Israel to everyone else. To find the real answer, though, we need to see the US dollar lose its place as the currency of trade internationally, since as long as the Americans can have their paper money accepted in this role, they can continue to burn trillions on their foreign wars and their military, run huge deficits, increasingly produce nothing worthwhile and force others to buy their junk and look for tributes from the collection of vassal states they want to see in power everywhere.
     
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    They don't need it, they sit on vast supplies of oil.

    US sanctions will not be pushed out of the way because Germany needs to US more than Germany needs Iran. In the end, US economy dictates what Germany can and cannot do.
     
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    US not bullying, we are asking Iran to quit exporting terrorism and to be an upstanding player on the world stage. Thus far, they have failed to do so. They want high tensions because it keeps the country galvanized under their control.

    When Iran kills and exports terror, we respond with sanctions.
     
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    The mines were placed on the side of the tankers to prevent much damage, even though an operation to place mines on the side of a tanker is a lot more complicated than placing mines in the water in the tanker's route, which would have blown the tanker ablaze.
    p,s,
    The gibberish about terrorism isn't worthy of a reply or my time.
     
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    See Michael Moore's 911 "documentary"?
    One of his lies was the children of Congressmen and military brass don't serve
    in the army or fight on the front line - turns out the sons of these "war mongers"
    have a higher participation and even causality rate than the general population.
    But many lapped this lie up, indeed, Moore said one lie per 90 seconds if I recall.

    If you are fine with Iran going nuke, and Arabia, Turkey and Egypt following them
    then that's fine by me. But don't blame America if it happens.
     
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    They have the right for nuclear power. Evry independend nation has that. Using oil to generate electricity is madness.

    So in other words you want denie Iran its right to have modern energy grid.

    We are the bigger economic power. We forced your shithole country to drop the tariffs that your subhuman president tried to push against us. We forced US corporations out of Europe (which is biggest market in the world). And we should do same now regarding Iran.

    Its our core interest to see USA destroyed. And we live in times where this is possible. Your global influence has shrunken so much, that if EU and China unite, you get economicly erased from the tribune.
     
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    each dead of them is a gift to the world.
     
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