Germany nixes US request to join naval mission off Iran

The mines were placed on the sides of the ship intentionally to compromise watertight integrity and to get flooding started in compartments above the water/at the waterline to do the most damage. Are you aware of how tankers and ships execute policies on watertight integrity?

Iran does export terrorism so trying to deny it is a waste of everyone's time. It's a fact and it's been that way for a long time.

 

Saudi Arabia exports terrorism as well. You obviously are ok with that.

 

Dead people is neither a gift nor good.

 

Yeah, like sending those planes into the World Trade Center.

So Iran did it? That's the best one yet.


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USA is our enemy. So i see this as good.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/odd...nsight-into-motive-of-tanker-attackers-2019-6
An oddly-placed mine suggests Iran may have been purposefully pulling its punches in the tanker attacks so far

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lol - Oh, is it now? Are you speaking as a German, Muslim or an actor from Iran?

The US is still #1 in the world militarily and economically so your diabolical planes will have to be on hold for quite some time.

 

Celebrating? Why change the subject to 9/11 when we are clearly discussing the Middle East and the Straits of Hormuz?

 

That's very sad. Nothing like biting the hand that feeds you.

 

I speak as a German.

And no, We are Nr. 1. The EU is the largest economy in the entire world.

 

Not to Germany. Are you expressing this through your own ideology, as an actor for Iran or another means? The US is more important to Germany than Iran is.

 

I dont get fed. We are people, not dogs. Its this attitude that makes you our enemy.

 

You speak on your own, then.

The EU is nothing without the United States and her economy.

 

In Germany, USA is seen as bigger enemy for world peace than Iran.

https://www.ccdiscovery.com/germans-see-the-us-as-the-biggest-threat-to-world-peace

56% see US as biggest threat. The second-highest source of danger situate the people, therefore, in North Korea (45 percent), followed by Turkey (42 percent) and Russia (41 percent).

 

How can the bigger economy be nothing compared to Nr. 2?

Also you did not know how much USA is hated in Germany?

 

Do you really think it was Iran and not some false flag attack by some other nation? I can't imagine Washington not lying about it, because that would be a first.

Then again if it was done by Iran to make some Arab nation rethink their policies, it can't be condemned. Anything would be better than blowing that area up into a major war.

As for Trump, he better watch his step and do what he should have done a long time ago and sack Bolton. As Tucker Carlson told him, that if he allows this country to go to war with Iran it will be the end of his presidency.

 

America paid for the defense of your country for since the end of WW2.

It's attitude like yours that make me wish we hadn't.

 

Unjustly.

 

But the US is not more important to Germany than being an independent, sovereign state. Which is the biggest reason the Germans are rightly riled up with the Americans.

 

Americans don't care. Germany can have all the unjustified feeling it wants. It's an insignificant place politically.

 

I knew Trump was pushing things too far with respect to Iran. He is clearly not in the right and can't simply rely throwing America's weight around to make it all work out. Doing so is causing lasting damage to our international standing and our longstanding relationships with the rest of the free world, and he's too self-absorbed and too obsessed with his precious Fox News & fake news fan base to notice or care.

 

Americans do care and you are quite wrong about Germany's significance.

 

Hmmm i never hear anyone ever mentioning Germany except when Sobo posts something.

Near as i can tell in the last 100 years Germans have done one significant thing that was good and that was in 1989.


I think if you polled Americans you'd find considerable indifference to Germany.

 

Most Americans are not okay with that. But all the little Arabist Metternichs in our political class are fine with it. Balance of power - get it?
If not, a little time at the Wilson School at Princeton or waterboarding might help.

 

That was East Germany - hybrid dynamism.