Gina Haspel, C.I.A. Deputy Director, Had Leading Role in Torture

No I graduated college back when education was non-political and more effective.

 

"There is nothing new under the sun...." Shakespeare

 

You no studied zombies, vampires and homosexual relationships? ... In this case, your education in the US is outdated.

 

You're the expert.

 

LOL, if that were true, they would be torturing half the government of Israel and the US.

 

I suspected that would be the case. Many americans are thrilled, perhaps titillated, by thoughts of torturing humans. Freudian slip perhaps?

 

Hypotheticals can be useful sometimes, but those whose ethics are determined by hypotheticals they see as real are living in their own world.

Good intentions in hypothetical situations do not forgive criminal actions in real life. I know the TV show "24" has really indoctrinated many americans, but I can't go there.

 

I guess if you are a terrorist, you would believe that. All about point of view and perspective.

 

Things who use women and children as guided bombs are not humans.

Are there people worried their supply of them could be cut off?

 

Is this the part where conservatives masturbate to thoughts of torture?

 

So that means that it's okay to stoop to their level..

 

Anyone who supported the invasion of Iraq is a much as a barbarian as the 9-11 terrorists.

 

Soooo you're saying innocent women and children should be raped and murdered?

 

Not saying that at all. Our government supported Saddam until he invaded Kuwait. Many more innocent people have been killed since Bush invaded Iraq than under Saddam. And when Saddam gassed Kurds in the eighties he had Reagan's blessing. So spare me the phony concern for innocent women and children.

 

Why bring up Liberals usual support for deviancy and abortions?

 

Indeed. There was a time when the citizens of the West were above such a thing and would have brought their governments down, not now though.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/03/14/hasp-m14.html


But what the heck, the US is moving to fascism if it isn't there already.

Seven days in March: The Trump administration and the breakdown of American democracy

and lets not pretend the Democrats have anything better to offer.

The CIA Democrats: Part one

They say in 'democracies' people get the Governments they deserve and it is clear from some in this thread that they are indeed getting what they want. The US is now down with the worse supported by some of its electorate. It is also a demonstration of how easy it is to bring fascism in through democracy - it always is brought in through democracy. Can even continue with a vote every 4 or 5 years.

 

I like her. I bet she does a great job!

Shalom

 

Or, terrorists could play nice so we don't have to do such things you know like quit attacking us and blowing our legs off at places like the Boston Marathon in OUR COUNTRY. Not murder thousands of civilians by bringing down buildings. So basically when dealing with monsters, you have to step up your game. I mean no one is holding a gun to their head and forcing them to come here and kill our people. And when they do that, it pretty much makes them fair game for whatever. If they have to undergo water boarding to save the lives of a school full of children, then I say, water board away.. And it's not like they don't have a choice which is more than they give us.

 

She should not be permitted to occupy such a senior position.

 

Let me ask you this, If they were planning to blow up your child's school or a church where your parents worship on Sunday, would you want the FBI to know it was going to happen by using any means available to stop it? Or would you rather bury your child or parents because you don't want to feel bad about using torture tactics? Remember water boarding although horrible and certainly no fun, doesn't kill them. THEY on the other hand plan ways to KILL us..

 

Reframing the discussion about torture to a 'maybe it's OK, really' waterboarding focus allows morons, cheats, liars, and traitors to abandon the constitution so it shouldn't be too difficult to have them abandon 2a as well.

A few Tweets from gun grabber Trump should do it.

 

Every regime change's process is totalitarian in nature, meaning that it is forcibly imposed. I don't know what is wrong with the WASP attitude to consider Napoleon as an antichrist and the French Revolution as a tragedy. Does the rest of the world think the American Revolution was a tragedy? The English certainly did.

 

That would be true if torture worked. I have made my pick, and I am consistant with my values.

 

Protection and favours. You know, like in a regular justice system.

 

Putin - with a Hitler-like mustache? Wow am I shocked.

That does it - he's evil.

Elevate the debate, for fck's sake.