God Is Impossible: Problem of Evil

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  1. Adorno

    Adorno Active Member

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    Nope. Now you're just foot-stomping.

    This is comically confused. Your argument from analogy: murder can't be separated from it's reasons - i.e. premeditation. Likewise, it is false to say that God commands something without reason (unrelated to his nature). Statement B says that God commands something without reason (unrelated to his nature), so statement B must be false. Now the extraordinary thing is that you present this argument to show why B is true! See below:

    :smile:

    Good god man (pun intended), you give sophistry a bad name.
     
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  2. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What a ridiculous circular logic fallacy.. "God is perfect so he can't of created evil" - with a bunch of fallacious gibberish in the middle.

    First logical flaw "Human beings are perfect creations" ... since the topic is "Evil" a perfect creation would not have the ability to be evil.

    Obviously humans were created with the ability to be evil (God could have easily created robots... with no free will and thus no ability to do evil .. perfect creations). God created humans with the ability to be/do evil. Your claim that God did not create humans to have this ability is patently false.
     
  3. yguy

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    Yep.
    Such projection is hardly unexpected from those emotionally invested in nonsense.
    You're presumably doing a wonderful job of creating confusion in your own mind, if nowhere else.
    Seeing you're not making a lick of sense, your best option at this point may be to declare victory and vamoose outa here. :smile:
    To accomplish that I'd have to be a practitioner; and if anyone around here is, it ain't me. :wink:
     
  4. Adorno

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    Childish response. I expected nothing less. "You cannot reason people out of what they were never reasoned into." -Jonathan Swift
     
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    Obviously this is intended as an aspersion, but it's worth noting that there isn't a dimes worth of difference between those who reason themselves into a belief in God and those who reason themselves out of it.
     
  6. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If your future is already known by god, and if your future was known to be one where you jumped off a cliff to your death, no matter how you feel about that idea now, this is what would happen, in your future. Yet you would still be making a choice, using free will, in order for what god knew, to play out. You decided to jump, and you had the option of not jumping. So god knows what free will will yield before you do.

    On the other hand, perhaps the creator of the universe doesn't know and has no need to know? He set a system in motion, with variables included that add variety and change, but not determined from the big view. He will be as much delighted and surprised by what his creation yields. God's great entertainment. From the Virtual Reality that he created.
     
  7. Maccabee

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    Why is the comparison invalid? And if you make a claim like God is fictional, then it's up to you to provide evidence for it.
     
  8. rahl

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    One deals with an all powerful omniscient god, and the other doesn't.

    Nope. As that is the default position of any claim of existence, for which there is no evidence for. I no more have to prove god doesn't exist, than I have to prove psychic snowflakes don't exist.
     

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