Google Expert to Senator Cruz: 15 Million 2020 Votes At Risk (election tampering story)

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    You seem to be incapable of staying on message. BTW, it would be difficult to break up a web portal.
     
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    We could prohibit them from selling personal data of subscribers
     
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    I can agree with you on that.
     
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    obviously he is not a expert
     
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    It wasn’t debunked by anyone.

    Indeed, the Russian effort is so well documented, that we know that names and ranks of the Russian officers who ran it. It has also been directly linked to Putin.

    I don’t know where you get this nonsense about “your own man in the deep state”. Sounds like the usual right wing cartoon paranoia.
     
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    some Trump supporters just do not want to admit the truth as they think it looks bad for their cult leader
     
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    They keep going back to "Trump/Russia". They conflate it with Russian interference.

    Their theory seems to be that if Trump didn't directly and actively collude with Russia, Russia did nothing wrong. Bizarre, but that is the only straw they can grasp at.

    Russia interfered in the election. Mueller documented that. Trump was almost certainly aware of the Russian interference, expected to benefit from it and stood back and let it happen. Again, documented by Mueller.

    IMHO, the race was so tight in several states that the Russian interference might have swayed the outcome of the election. But as soon as you point that out to a Trump lemming, they will say that Mueller cleared Trump of collusion. Which is not at all the point. Russian interference could occur with or without active collusion. Clearing Trump of collusion does not clear the Russians of interference.

    It is a pretty obvious point, but one the lemmings won't acknowledge.
     
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    Mueller was the Deep States hand-picked man tto execute the coup against trump

    But he failed to find collusion

    Which leads your side with nothing but lies you tell each other
     
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    Even if they did, it would be perfectly writhing their rights to do so.

    There is no fairness doctrine for social media companies.

    It is comical to watch right wingers rant about free (or at least balanced) speech on social media and then turn right around and celebrate the lack of balance in right wing media and as ”free speech”

    The hypocracy is both typical and astounding.
     
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    Your side set the rules for your little game

    Libs assured the public that trump was not a legimate president because he conspired with Putin to steal the election from the dumbest woman in politics

    Day after day, month upon month the lib news media kept telling us mueller had the proof that trump was guilty of treason

    But it was all a big lie

    They obviously fooled you and Tom along with millions of other people

    Now you’re left holding the bag
     
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    Trump was informed that the Russians were behind the DNC hacks. And he was aware of it months before the first Wikileaks dump. That IS documented.

    There is very strong evidence that Roger Stone was one of the conduits for collusion (since he was not officially part of the Trump campaign).

    I have no idea whether the Russians delivered Trump the White House. That’s almost impossible to prove. But the fact that they tried, and that the Trump campaign not only knew about it, but wanted to coordinate thier efforts is not in any doubt.
     
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    Fox does not have a monopoly on cable tv

    If it were the only game in town you would be singing a different tune
     
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    Actually trump was not informed

    The excuse the FBI used to spy on him was suspected russian infiltration of his campaign

    But they never informed his of what they were up to because he was the real target they were trying to catch
     
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    Repeating yourself doesn’t make any of that baseless blather true.

    You worked in a bunch of right wing code words about whether Trump is “legitimate”, which is a right wing meme, not a left wing one. It goest to the idiotic “soft coup” meme that right wingers are always breathlessly parroting.

    Putin conspired to influence the US election, and is still at it, with the cooperation of both Trump and Mitch McConnell.

    That is right out in the open.

    Trump became a useful idiot once it became clear to the Russians that he might wing the GOP nomination.

    That’s when they put their chips on Trump, having their data firm Cambridge Analytica (Kelly Ann Conway’s employer) to the Trump campaign, and telling Stone to install their man, Manafort, in the Trump campaign.

    Then they reached out to various people in the Trump campaign through cutouts, and got a very enthusiastic reception from the Trump people.

    Trump has no moral compass or sense of duty or loyalty. So, if Russian intelligence steps up and says we can help make you President, Trump isn’t objecting. Indeed, the record clearly shows that he and his team were anxious to collude.

    You can plug your ears, shut you eyes, and bellow “soft coup” and all the other idiotic right wing nonsense.

    But the well documented facts are still there.

    And you don’t have one of them.
     
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    Trump was fully aware. That too, is documented. He is also an active particpant in cover up and attempts to obstruct. He has also publicly lied about principal material facts in the scandal.

    Sorry, but when were the police required to inform the potential bank robbers that they were being watched while they planned to rob the bank??????

    Do you even think any of this through before you bleat it?
     
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    The attempt to convince people like you that trump cheated and therefore is not a legit president is real and you bought it

    But it was a lie
     
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    That’s what you get when you breed people to be poorly educated mindless consumers.
    Look at who is the current potus for the prime example.
     
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    Several times comey told trump he was not the target of investigation

    But he was

    Meaning the Deep State conducted a soviet style operation

    Identify a suspect and then find evidence to justify the suspicion
     
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    We are a deeply divided nation

    Maybe more-so than anytime since 1860
     
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    You quite often find yourself reduced to trying to put words in other people’s mouths. This appears to be your substitute for being unable or unwilling to make a fact based argument.

    I never said that Trump’s victory was illegitimate.

    It was a statistical fluke. This is almost certainly the first time in American history that a man became President of the United States without ever once getting 50% of the vote in any contested primary or in the general election.

    Did the Russians participate?

    That is very well documented. Thanks to Trump and McConnell, it’s still going on.

    Did the flip the election?

    That’s virtually impossible to prove.

    None the less, the Russians campaign reached 130 million voters, nearly as many people as voted. That is a fact.

    Trump won by a plurality of less than 70,000 votes. Put 70,000 over 130 million and you get fraction of one percent.

    Direct mail advertising generally has a hit rate of about two percent. So it is easily statistically possible that the Russians threw the election to Trum

    I doubt that they actually did. Even if they did, it was a fluke. There was no way to accurately predict that specific areas would vote a certain way because of a media campaign. (At least it may have been in 2016).

    Trump cheated.

    There is no doubt about that. Cheating is core to Trump’s being. He never does anything the straight or legitimate way.

    IF there is any concern over the legimacy of the Trump presidency, consider that Trump spent most of 2016, in secret negotiations over a hotel deal in Moscow, and even offered Putin a nice bribe to sweeten the deal.

    The Russians apparantly weren’t really interested. But they didled Trump the whole way, and then sent their operatives to New York by hinting that they had more dirt on Clinton (they already know that the Russians had the DNC files).

    The Russians were assembling comprimat on Trump.

    When a reporter asked Putin if he had anything on Trump, Putin trolled Trump with a long pregnant pause, which was heard around the world.
     
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    No, several times Trump asked for reassurance that he was not the personal target of investigation.

    His campaign was, and Trump knew it.

    As for your deep state fantasy, it’s false too.

    Investigations into the conduct of the Trump campaign began after various foreign intelligence agencies began alerting the FBI into the strange behavior of many Trump campaign officials. Behavior that Trump and his cronies would repeatedly lie about.
     
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    You dont have to admit that you think trump is not the legimate president

    Your entire attitude is dripping with it

    Since I flipped the light switch on you are trying to appear a bit calmer

    But its too little too late

    The anti trump world is losing its mind and flipping out all over America

    Just the sight of a trump sticker turns into road rage or worse

    And its tearing the country apart
     
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    How would trump know that secret FISA warrents were being issued?
     

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