GOP blocks House Democrats' attempt to pass $2,000 stimulus checks

My "poor" state of Alabama it's 4.4% state wide and 3.6% in my county. We are about to hit 5.5% nationwide and falling. There are jobs out there waiting to be filled. Why send money to people who are working and paying their bills?

 

Well I'd certainly be considered one of those in cracks but the question remains unemployment is WAY down heading to full employment. Why should and especially government workers who have not been of their jobs and have been collecting their paychecks working people be getting government hand outs?

 

The huge Obama/Biden stimulus package was not passed until 2009 and failed by it's own goals. Bush43 tried his $600 prebate in 2001 and it did nothing and he learned it was lower tax rates and less regulation that stimulates the economy puts people back to work as tax payers and gains us HUGE tax revenue increases and paltry deficits if not surpluses.

"The House version of the bill, H.R. 1, was introduced on January 26, 2009.[11] chairman, and was co-sponsored by nine other Democrats. On January 23, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said that the bill was on track to be presented to President Obama for him to sign into law before February 16, 2009.[12] Although 206 amendments were scheduled for floor votes, they were combined into only 11, which enabled quicker passage of the bill.[13]

On January 28, 2009, the House passed the bill by a 244–188 vote.[14] All but 11 Democrats voted for the bill, and 177 Republicans voted against it (one Republican did not vote).[15]

The Senate called a special Saturday debate session for February 7 at the urging of President Obama. The Senate voted, 61–36 (with 2 not voting) on February 9 to end debate on the bill and advance it to the Senate floor to vote on the bill itself.[19] On February 10, the Senate voted 61–37 (with one not voting)[20] All the Democrats voted in favor, but only three Republicans voted in favor (Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, and Arlen Specter).[21] Specter switched to the Democratic Party later in the year. At one point, the Senate bill stood at $838 billion.[22]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ameri...nd Reinvestment,Barack Obama in February 2009.

 

YO Georgia voters ... YOU need to TAKE OUT this do-nothing republican STIFF mcconnell!!

Vote RAPHIE and JONNIE ... and vote HARD!!!

https://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/1344003577153515523

 

I'm talking about the 2008 stimulus package passed under the Bush Administration.

https://www.foxnews.com/story/house-follows-senate-in-approving-economic-stimulus-plan

I'm not seeing anywhere that insists the democrats were against direct payments of $600 which is what is being claimed.

 

That’s why I added the clip to Family Guy.
Can’t we have a little bit of fun here?

 

It was passed by a Democrat Congress, the Democrats took back the Congress January of 2007 and it too failed.

 

It was passed with a bipartisan vote.

 

And overwhelmingly Democrat it was a Pelosi/Reid bill and it was a tax rebate not free cash being handed out THEN came the HUGE Obama/Biden stimulus and it was an even more monumental failure.

 

They learned it from Democrats. Bernie Sanders is the source of it.

 

What do you mean overwhelmingly? Republicans overwhelmingly voted for it which means they were fine with it. Are you going to tell me voting for a bill actually means you don't support it?

 

It was a PELOSI/REID bill, written by Democrats although the Reps did get some of pork out of it. And it didn't work, that then the Obama/Biden one didn't work.

 

And it was signed by both Democrats and Republicans including Bush. What exactly is your point?

 

Looks like McConnell has a metaphorical death wish.

He decided against clean bill and instead is tying it to repealing the Social Media liability shield and an electoral Fraud committee.

Poison pills that the Dems won't support. Hopefully Georgia is paying attention to Moscow Mitch's abdication.

 

I did not say that the DNC claimed that the $600 payments were too low. I said that they claimed that direct payments were not an effective way to stimulate the Government. What the 2008 Stimulus Act was make the payments a Tax Rebate instead of a direct payment. If you did not pay taxes at the time it was passed, you did not get a payment.

In November 2008, the Congress passed the Unemployment extension Act. That extended the UE for as much as two years. I know this for a fact, because I was unemployed at the time. This act passed with overwhelming support by both the DNC and the GOP. But that does not change the fact that the DNC claimed that Direct payments were not an effective way to stimulate the economy.

 

Where did they make the claim direct payments were not an effective way to stimulate the economy? Perhaps they didn't think by itself it would stimulate the economy, but they liked the rebates so much they wanted it expanded.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2008/01/stim-j25.html

 

You said "passed by Bush". False. Pelosi and Reid wrote it and passed it. And those polices didn't work then and were even worse when they tried again FIVE TIMES BIGGER with NO Republican support in the House and only 3 in the Senate, what's yours?

In this time of economic recovery do you think we should go back to those same policies when Biden ran that recovery or the Bush/Rep during the 2001 dot.com bust/recession/911 and the Trump/Rep policies that led to one of if not the best economy we ever had? If the previous Biden recovery and lack thereof please explain why.

 

How dumb can Republican leadership get? They already handed the Presidency to Dems over COVID denial and now they've basically all but done the same with the Senate over these checks. At this point I have very little motivation to in supports Republicans simply because of these colossally brain-dead strategic errors. I cant even say its about the ideology anymore. Its simple coming down to a fact of pure outright unmitigated stupidity. Republicans had economy, national security, job market, stock market, you name it going for them while the only thin Democrats could run on was defunding policy and ANTIFA/BLM terrorism. They literally threw this election away, there is simply no other explanation.

 

Here's the national picture:

"Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 245,000 in November, and the unemployment rate edged down to 6.7 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. These improvements in the labor market reflect the continued resumption of economic activity that had been curtailed due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic and efforts to contain it. However, the pace of improvement in the labor market has moderated in recent months. In November, notable job gains occurred in transportation and warehousing, professional and business services, and health care. Employment declined in government and retail trade."​

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

Unemployment is still 50% higher than it was before COVID-19.

 

As I said, help should go to the unemployed and businesses hurt by the pandemic.

 

we can do that on the next stimulus, right now it's based on the 2019 income, which is a issue too as even people that made 75k in 2019, may not be making anything in 2020

the problem was republican did not want to help those that were unemployed as they felt it would stop those that could get a job from doing so, catch 22

 

The math doesn't add up, and for partisan reasons, Trump's loyalists have long used Abbott and Costello's math, thus, Unemployment versus Employment

EMPLOYMENT shows;

January 2017; 152,081,000 employed

January 2020; 158,714,000 Employed........Up 6.6 million

HOWEVER:

November 2020; 149,732,000 Employed..........Down 8.9 million

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UNEMPLOYMENT shows;

January 2020; 5,892,000 Unemployed
Unemployment rate; 3.6%

November 2020; 10,735,000 Unemployed..........Up 4.8 million
Unemployment rate; 6.7%

 

Bring on "the next stimulus" now.

Dumb, frankly. How difficult is it to figure out you can starve people into going to work, but you can starve people afraid of getting sick into dining out, traveling, and going to the mall?

 

Most MAGA types have no idea how the economy works and couldn't explain the laws of supply and demand if their lives depended on it.

How many of them know economic growth in Trump's first three years was virtually identical to Obama's last three?

 

50% higher than the RECORD unemployment we saw, it's 40% under where the Obama/Biden hit and almost 20% less than where they kept it for over 3 years. Less than half what it was peak COVID.


So why all this "free money" being sent out?