Gowdy rips Obama's hypocrisy: "We don’t pass suggestions...we pass laws"

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  1. Stuart Wolfe

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    That pretty much sums up what Obama is, yes.
     
  2. Professor Peabody

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    I do want to prevent it for all future Presidents. Obama is violating the Constitution and his oath of office to uphold it.

    Impeachment proceedings should be started unless he fires Holder.........Period.
     
  3. Professor Peabody

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    The mandate start dates are specified in the law. What law was passed changing the start dates for the mandates in the ACA?
     
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    But that's not what I said. I said that Bush was worse than Obama, and Carter was worse than Bush.
     
  5. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    Excuse for what?

    You consider congress broken because Obama cannot get whatever he wants, as if he were king. I think it works just fine.
     
  6. FreshAir

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    I consider congress broken because some can't even do the things that are good for America, things they agree with, only because they dislike the black man in the white house and want to punish America for electing a black man
     
  7. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    then tell your congressmen, tell them to stop attacking Obama for something every president has done, and create a bill to prevent any president from doing it in the future
     
  8. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please link to any other President changing laws already passed without legislation. Obama is out of control and needs to be stopped, by legislation or impeachment.
     
  9. AmericanNationalist

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    And pray tell, what are these things? Raising the Minimum Wage? Not everyone agrees with this idea(mostly because it'll inflate prices and do nothing about real median earning power. Do you really think moving mere pebbles will solve the crisis?) Is it WAVA? The Republicans would pass it(by their own admission) if the act weren't laden with pork and nothing to do with woman's rights.

    Is it affirmative action for minorities? The Republicans have it right here: What's good for one, should be good for all. The proposal for affirmative actions for these minorities would add further financial burdens on business, frivolous lawsuits(a country that sues more than anything else.) A lot of that is a huge part of the reason we're here today.

    The ACA's flaws were noted for example before it became law, it has since transformed into the most dysfunctional law in U.S history. Was the opposition to that because a "black man" is in office?(Never mind that he's biracial, not that I or any decent minded person cares).

    No, all of our opposition goes back to one thing: Your laws/proposals SUCK. And if you can't pass it by the people, you proclaim us racist. In any event, the Liberals rules for radicals is moving according to plan. 90 million Americans decided not to vote. It's only a matter of time before even the congressmen and woman denounce government.

    No one wants to govern with you, and I can't wait for a walkout demonstration(like the U.N ones) to prove a point.
     
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    what law did Obama change, be specific
     
  11. Yosh Shmenge

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    That's our government you apparently don't like then. Either you have the backing to get your will done (like Obama Care) or you don't.

    Republicans owe Obama nothing and if they don't agree with his agenda that's too bad for him (and you).
     
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    What hasn't he changed in Obama care? Let's start with exempting unions from it. The law stated they were to pay into the system. Yet he gave them a pass. Not congress. He changed the law to buy the unions off.
     
  13. Yosh Shmenge

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    Precisely! Obama has just autocratically changed the things that displease him about his own law!
    And more amazingly, or perhaps not, people jump to his defense.
     
  14. FreshAir

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    Obama is responsible for the execution of laws, delaying a roll-out is without the power of the President, delaying is hardly changing the law

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    wait wait wait, is this congresses law he is delaying or Obama's - make up you minds

    if it's Obama's law, then should he not be able tweak it as he sees fit? or is it Congresses law and only they can tweak it to make it better for the American people


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    Gowdy is just another right wing extremist republican trying to make a name for himself by bad mouthing the President. They're a dime a dozen.

    Gerrymandering allowed him to get into office.
     
  16. FreshAir

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    I and most Americans consider Congress broken, and you can expect nothing from Obama that is not within his power if the bills are not made by Congress, so stop blaming Obama for Congress"s lack of bills to sign
     
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    He didn't delay labor unions part of the tax law. He omitted it. Have them a free pass. A way to say thanks for your money. Because the unions didn't want any part if this crap. So to pay them back for their donations he let them out. That's not a delay brother. And I ask you why them. Why not everyone? Why not other non unions labors? Why only unions get a free pass?
    Political favors. That's why.
     
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    What an ironic and hypocritical statement from one of the people who cheered on 26 Republican governor who ENTIRELY ignored the ACA laws and did NOT set up their Helathcare exchanges.

    FAIL!
     
  20. Yosh Shmenge

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    ACA laws do not compel governors to set up health care exchanges in their individual states.
    "Last week saw an important milestone on the road toward implementing the Affordable Care Act, a.k.a. Obamacare: Friday was the deadline for states to let the Department of Health and Human Services know whether they’d be setting up their own health care exchange, or wanted the federal government to do it for them." http://billmoyers.com/2012/12/19/many-governors-veto-state-run-health-care-exchanges/

    It helps to know what one is talking about when posting but when has that ever stopped lefty clowns before?
     
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    The ACA, the start dates are right in the text of the law.
     
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    in other words the President, the one in charge of executing the law(rolling it out) delayed it... Congress is not responsible for the execution(rollout)

    delays happen all the time with other laws rollouts, often because of not enough funding...

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    Again how about he wrote into the bill that unions would have to pay their fair share like everyone else. Passed the law then gave his donors( the unions ) exemption. That's changing the law.
     
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    it's within his power, same as previous Presidents

    congress of course can override his EO, that is within their power, that is how the system works


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