Great American Gun myth no2 "Guns don't kill people People Kill people"

Good. So you oppose those who wish to further restrict the acquisition and possession of guns by the people of the several states?

 

Well at least living over in Australia, there is not much chance of that.

 

Why can't a person from one country oppose a policy being suggested in another country?

 

A person from one Country can indeed oppose a policy being suggested in another Country.

However, The Right to keep and bear Arms is not a policy nor is it suggested or a suggestion in any way, it is Our Right; " The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,
The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

And as I will further clarify, Bower Bird is from Australia, there is bloody little she can do about Our Rights.

Oh, BTW, most Australians do NOT want Americans to oppose what goes on, is suggested or is Policy in Australia, or Americans should not stick their snouts into the affairs of other Countries, Australia for instance.

 

Pencils and knives do not have a "weapons effect"

 

Sure they can be especially if the person is already in some state of arousal.

 

That is good to know, since I was once stabbed and injured with a pencil, I am glad your opinion differs with the Official report that classified the pencil as
"An offensive weapon"
weapon used ?: yes
type of weapon used __pencil____
injury ___stab wound___

 

A gun is a tool. I could compare it with any tool that could be considered dangerous. An automobile has the potential to kill as many people as any gun and a bag of fertilizer can do tremendous damage. Should we outlaw fertilizer also? The problem with guns is the operator.
A top priority of totalitarian states is disarmament of the public and even though an armed populace has little chance against a well trained army it does make their job harder. A gun is a tool and owning a gun is an American right ...and as Americans one violation of our rights puts all other rights in jeopardy. It is chipping away at the foundation of American freedom.

 

They are possessed by demonic forces, which only government agents, bestowed with powerful magics by virtue of their receiving a government paycheck, can really control.

 

You do know that some of Us have Military service and training right ?

The Media loves to trot out that tired horse of training rot, in order to reason that members of the public should NOT be allowed the same weapons as Military services, well the average Soldier is not so well trained and the average Joe non Soldier in most cases has WAYYYY more valuable experience hunting, that trumps the scant shooting training Soldiers receive.

Audie L. Murphy is a perfect example of a Soldier that knew how to shoot before joining the U.S. ARMY, The MARINES rejected him, too short, they regret that today, Tradition is for MARINES to look in the mirror and say his name three times and do a back kick to the buttocks.

History also shows otherwise, 13 year old girls gave the Nazis heck by working with the Partisans, climbing trees and shooting German Soldiers with captured Mauser rifles to good effect, killing many of the enemy.

 

I have military service and training.... A long time ago. Got out in 72. U.S. Army. I only own one gun a 22 long rifle for varmint control.

 

As a fellow Soldier, I thank you for your service.

Now, as a fellow shooter, what does only owning one .22 LR for pest or varmint control have anything to do with the topic ?

 

In the OP you said you don't want to ban guns, correct? Do you oppose efforts to restrict the acquisition and possession of guns?

 

Thank you. And owning a 22 really doesn't have anything to do with the topic.

 

Acquisition - yes but only to a certain extent

I am uncomfortable with criminals, mentally unstable, dementia sufferers with access to guns

What has made a huge difference where it has been introduced is the securement of firearms when not in use

 

A firearms securement mandate would restrict the ability to use the firearm for defensive purposes in the home. It would be unconstitutional here in the US.

 

I am not sure of that last bit - after all the second amendment says nothing about the condition of the arms - simply that there is a right to form an armed militia

Guns are far far more likely to cause harm in the home rather than prevent it.

 

Because you are ignorant of US law.

The 2nd says no such thing.
You know this, of course.

Unsubstantiated, and meaningless, hooey.

 

SCOTUS ruled that firearms for self defense is protected under the 2A.


"Examining the words of the Amendment, the Court concluded “we find they guarantee the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation” — in other words, for self-defense. “The inherent right of self-defense has been central to the Second Amendment right,” it added."


http://www.scotusblog.com/2008/06/court-a-constitutional-right-to-a-gun/

 

I see. So you aren't, as you state in the OP, simply taking a look at myths surrounding guns. You propose restricting the acquisition of guns and dictating the way people keep their guns. Got it.

 

It is something that cannot be avoided so long as such individuals are allowed to remain free in society where they can do the most harm.

Except in the united states it cannot be enforced with the current legal system. Simply because it is mandatory does not mean it will be complied with. Seat belt requirements are mandatory, but many choose to disregard them. Beyond such facts, there is currently no codified definition of just what would amount to secured storage in this instance, thus meaning it could be defined in a way that is prohibitively expensive. For some a locking sheet metal box may suffice, but it may not meet in unspecified requirements, which could cost upwards of one thousand dollars or more. That would be unreasonable for one who is only looking to own one firearm. It would also be discriminatory to someone who can only afford a cheap firearm such as a Hi-Point pistol, rather than a more expensive and more quality model of firearm.

 

No one has ever been killed by NOT pulling the trigger....

Indeed GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE - PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE.

People have been killing people since forever - it's what animals do..... Hell people have been very good at killing people since the MILLION YEARS before the gun was even invented...

You do realize that if someone wants someone else dead there is absolutely NOTHING anyone can do to stop them? I mean it's not like murderers go "damn I can't kill this person because I don't have a gun".........

 

Do you belong to any of the groups I mentioned?

 

Errrr - quite a few have been killed by being hit on the head with one

Thank-you to the NRA for generating the STUPIDEST meme in the world

What reduction in guns does is reduce the weapons effect and the impulse shootings