Until september eleventh, the notion of an airplane being hijacked and diverted into skyscrapers was borderline unthinkable, and the nonsense of bad hollywood movies. After september eleventh, it was realized that such nonsense could indeed happen, and it was no longer nonsense.
Yes....the govt is going to do a house to house search of 126M households to confiscate all guns. My lord...the hysteria never ceases to amaze me.
If it was done in the city of New Orleans, why should it not be believed that it can happen elsewhere?
The Battle to Describe the Battle of New Orleans Brannon LeBouef, a shooting instructor and security consultant, was a New Orleans Marine veteran and reserve police officer who participated in the storm response. By 2013, he’d heard so many fantastical Katrina rumors that it was time to set the record straight. “There was NOT widespread gun confiscation in New Orleans,” he wrote on the Bang Switch, a pro-gun blog sympathetic to the Oath Keepers (current and former military and law enforcement officers who vow to disobey government orders that violate civil rights) and the NRA. Gun-grabbing “was nowhere near as widespread as some would have you believe,” and the confiscations LeBoeuf could confirm “were isolated incidents” done largely by “out of town” cops and soldiers, part of an alphabet soup of agencies without clear missions or lines of responsibility: I know I encountered countless people with firearms and did not confiscate a single one, neither did any officer I knew or worked with. The only time firearms were seized were when someone was arrested for a crime — no different than before the rain. In fact, LeBouef wrote, he and 200 other federal officers from an array of agencies were given clear briefing instructions that included an order not to take firearms except as criminal evidence or as part of arrest procedures. https://www.thetrace.org/2015/08/nra-hurricane-katrina-gun-confiscation/
Well, that's one person's viewpoint. Others have a different experience: "A week later, New Orleans police superintendent Edwin P. Compass III earned infamy with a widely publicized call for blanket confiscation. “Only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons,” he decreed, a policy formed and carried out incompetently, with little regard for legal implications in the storm-blown leadership vacuum." https://www.thetrace.org/2015/08/nra-hurricane-katrina-gun-confiscation/ "City officials have agreed to return hundreds of firearms that police officers confiscated in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, part of a deal to resolve a lawsuit filed by gun lobbying groups." "Police department spokesman Bob Young said it has stored 552 guns that were confiscated after Katrina, through Dec. 31, 2005. Police have said they only took guns that were stolen or found in abandoned homes." http://www.nbcnews.com/id/27087738/...-suit-over-katrina-gun-seizures/#.XBBOxHRKguU
Found in abandoned homes, nice, evacuate as advised to and later have the police search your empty home, without a warrant, and seize your legally owned firearms.
How the hell do I know who is calling? Even if the caller ID says "Gallup Polling" that doesn't mean it is. Hell, I've been called from MY OWN phone number on numerous occasions. Furthermore, even if somehow I could be convinced it WAS Gallup calling (a circumstance I can't see happening), I STILL wouldn't tell the truth about my gun ownership. How the hell do I know what they're going to do with the information? It's the same reason I don't have NRA stickers on my cars, or put up a "Warning: This household has guns" sign in my lawn. No desire to draw any kind of attention to myself.
I highly doubt that. There is only a paper trail for one. (Note: Nothing illegal transpired in the others.)
I understand (and am in the same boat). Still, those that were purchased possess a paper trail of sorts, no? If one were discovered at the scene of a crime, it would be a simple computer search to determine where and when it was sold, and to whom.
It's happening already with these so-called "red flag" warrants that have no due process and only require an unsubstantiated allegation by someone who doesn't even need to prove they know you.
They can "possibly", maybe even "probably" be tracked back to whomever bought them from an FFL to begin with. Getting from them to me would prove tricky, at best. And, while the chances of me committing an actual crime with any of them is 0.00000000001%, and if for some inconceivable reason I did, I wouldn't be leaving my firearm at the scene. Regardless of what they advised Michael Corleone in The Godfather.
Proof is not necessary. Only the fact that it can be done, and is easy to do, is sufficient to keep your private information private. As I said in a prior post, I've received phone calls (multiple) from MY OWN PHONE NUMBER. If "someone" can do that, they can certainly fake being a survey company.
All it takes is ONE person, whether known to me or not, to go to the authorities and claim I'm a danger to myself or others, and the po-po will be showing up with a warrant. That ain't right. Sure, I *MIGHT* be able to have it overturned (and might not), but even if so my rights have nonetheless been violated.
Just remember the US is the country that in the mid twentieth century rounded up one of its ethnic populations and locked them in concentration camps. Don't say never.
But more importantly... "On the heels of that DOJ investigation, the city’s police department made sweeping reforms. President Bush signed bipartisan legislation “to prohibit the confiscation of a firearm during an emergency or major disaster,” except temporarily “as a condition for entry into any mode of transportation used for rescue or evacuation.”
The govt is going from home to home to confiscate guns under the guise of 'red flag' warrants are they. Guess they just haven't made it to my home yet.
There have been no circumstances under which a judge has not signed off on such. Beyond that particular matter, the very notion of such an order goes against the concept of innocent until proven guilty, as the accused has to defend themselves against the accusations leveled against them, and demonstrate that the opinion of being a danger is incorrect. The proposal is not due process. There is no due process to be had in any of these so called "red flag laws".
You've gotten lucky that you didn't piss someone off enough to report your ass. Try dumping a vindictive now-ex girlfriend/boyfriend (as the case may be) and see what happens. You (and sadly, many politicians and State Governments) need to acquaint yourself with what "due process" means. Also, regards unknown callers, I am in somewhat of a unique position that I have an area code from way out of state as I chose not to change my phone number when I moved. I get multiple spoof calls daily from gawd knows who, scammers, telemarketers, bill collectors, you name it, trying to "trick" me into answering by making it appear that "we're local" to each other, but I know better. Sadly, somehow, many of them have figured out my current locale, as the number of random calls I get from where I live now is on the upswing. But in a way I'm fortunate (if that's what you want to call it) insofar as I'm medically unemployed and not looking, so I don't have to answer some random call just in case they're a potential customer or employer. And out of the hundreds of calls I've received since coming home from the hospital some 10 months ago, only one left a message. It was my doctor.
I also get random calls on my cell....as does my wife, friends, co-workers...in other words...these calls aren't unusual. Stop being paranoid. The bottom line is the govt isn't going around trying to confiscate everyone's guns. Don't let your paranoia get the best of you.
Yes. I'm sure there were not 126 million households in the US at that time but it was a systematic rounding up of Japanese Americans. It's sad, if you are an American, that you don't know this already.
