Gun control strategy that satisfies both sides

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Hitops, Oct 14, 2011.

  1. Richard The Last

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    Then what good making new laws when we keep screwing up the ones we have now. Those were blatant.
     
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    I think if you give cops more tools they can do a better job. They will still make mistakes....but they will have more tools to go after the bad guys
     
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    They are not using the tools they have now. I understand mistakes. The cases I have mentioned showed clear signs and nothing was done. When Cruz finally got to the school, after all the signs were ignored, a cop stood outside and did basically nothing.
     
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    What is the way to get them to enforce better,?
     
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    Constitutions written generations ago dont mean they are relevant today. Anything can be updated if the will of the people demand it. Maybe by the turn of the century
     
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    Im not up with police weapons but if you have a nutter with an AR, shotgun etc (bazooka?) Then waiting for back up might be a sensible act. Too many unknowns like where is he/them, do I have enough ammunition? , should I overseer evacuations first etc.
    Easy to criticise police but we should be supporting them.
     
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    So you are indicating it is outdated? But you said: "then the constitution is wrong and therefore cant be respected". The Second Amendment has stood for 227 years. There have been other Amendments; one was even passed and then repealed. If it is "wrong" by today's standards then by all means let Americans change it. You suggest it cant be respected but I say it must be respected until it is repealed. Americans have had 227 years and have done it yet.
     
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    So rather than try and protect kids a cop should let them be killed by a crazy guy while waiting for back up?
     
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    Respond to tips on crazy people. Ensure agencies that have critical information understand how to pass it along to where it needs to be. Prosecute! When a straw purchaser is caught ensure they are prosecuted to the full extent of the law. What are we actually doing when someone goes to buy a gun and is turned down for some reason? Are all those who don't pass the background check being checked out? Heed warning signs. Hold people accountable who have prior knowledge and do nothing.
     
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    I dont respect anything thats out of date. 227 years...so you think musket times applies to todays AR perood? If you think that then thats ok, I dont agree.
     
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    Odd how you dont want gun control so this guy didnt get a gun in the first place but want to assess the whole situation without all the facts at hand. I was merely suggesting there might be reasons we dont know about. Has the cop been asked why he was idle?
     
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    The tide pod challenge, the fire challenge, the planking challenge, the lacking challenge, the bird box challenge, and countless other internet challenges that are leading to countless individuals being hospitalized and dying, due to their engaging in dangerous, stupid behavior, all because someone challenged them to do it.
     
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    Very few were ever legally owned at the time, due to the market price of two hundred dollars, and it being marketed to the public around the time of the great depression when someone would be considered lucky to have even ten dollars to their name.
     
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    The law was never intended to cover the disposal and trade of private property between private individuals. Therefore it is not a loophole.
     
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    So matters such as the right to free speech, the right to privacy, the prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment, or the guarantee of legal council, are all outdated and obsolete concepts that can simply be done away with?
     
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    Even patrol cops have rifles, and a basic load for those is over 100 rounds.
     
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    We are talking gun control, forgive me if I'm on the wrong thread. You can keep the relevant bit you know. Try not being picky, there is a bigger picture
     
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    Was not aware of that. Thankyou.
    Arsenal in the trunk I presume?
     
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    Why would you single out just one of the ten amendments of the Bill of Rights based on age, as they are all the same age?
     
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    I’m sure having the hanging on the wall in hardware stores did little to intice their theft. Let’s get real. They were made public with no regulation. After 1934 their use dwindled significantly. You want to pretend it had nothing to do with regulation, then continue to present yourself as completely dillusional. Strange dude. Youre the guy who says we have to live with gun violence and nothing can be done. That is sick.
     
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    Please show the data that supports the bolded.
     
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    Then do not make statements about how the united states constitution, as a whole, is outdated.
     
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    I’ll show nothing. You pretend to be an authority, you’d know it. The idea it has to be proven makes you totally uninformed and just a troll.
     
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    And yet there is nothing to indicate any of them were stolen from hardware stores, or any other publicly accessible location, for the use in criminal acts. Rather every indication appears to support their being stolen from government and law enforcement armories.
     
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    Translation:
    You know you cannot soundly respond to my posts.
    I accept your concession.
    Buttercup.
     
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