Gun control strategy that satisfies both sides

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Hitops, Oct 14, 2011.

  1. TOG 6

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    Is that how things work in Australia - you don't like the law so you think you can ignore it?
     
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    Still waiting for you to tell us why mass shootings don't happen in Oz, even though people have legal access to firearms more than suitable for such things.
     
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    Fortunately., there's an amendment process in our constitution.
    When the 2nd is repealed, let us know.
     
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    Wow. The ignorance contained in your post is impossibly deep.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Please butt out of talking about our Constitution. It's not relevant to you. I don't go on Australian forums and criticize your gun control. It's not my business, neither is American gun ownership your business.
     
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    Of course it was. The same way the original Brady Bill was sunset. Still, it’s a designed “loop hole” to appease the gun makers and keep gun rights fanatics in support “firearms” going to underaged, felons and mentally deranged. This LOOP HOLE. is a distribution mechanism. Firearms last way too long to be a valid money maker without involving prohibited buyers.
     
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    So you think jury trials, freedom of speech and religion are also outdated? Shoud we ban all religions created after the Constitution (in regards to your earlier post about musket era)? How about restricting all freedom of press not involving hand powered printing presses? There is nothing irrelevant about the Constitution. Human nature has not changed since that time.
     
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    The point is you're criticizing the Constitution for being old and outdated.
     
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    It's not a loophole, it's a specific feature of the law.
     
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    A loophole is an ambiguity in the law used to skirt it. This isn't a loophole, it's a feature. The law was specifically designed that way.
     
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    Let’s not get too technical just to make an point. We’re calling it a loop hole for ID purposes as most do just like it was originally referred to as a gun show loop hole when everyone knew it was a private sales Exception. Move on. It’s a firearm distribution mechanism. 100,000 guns a month are shipped from one GLOCK plant in Georgia. It’s rediculous to think all firearms made in the US market is being absorbed by just legal owners. They’re going to illegals including those south of the border. These guns help fuel drug trade. It’s a loop hole big enough to drive a truck load of firearms through.
     
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    Everyone did not know it was a private sales exception. People actually thought that gun shows required no background check at all. That's why language is important. Being technical is important. It's called using facts. I thought liberals were all about facts and science........

    Most guns are absorbed by just legal owners. Please prove otherwise.

    And, no, US made Glocks are not fueling the drug trade. The drug trade is buying guns primarily from the Mexican military.
     
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    Yes. The Democrats lied and the useful idiots bought it.
    In fact, they still do.
     
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    Bull. This has been going on for decades. The only thing more consistent is ignorance and dedication to the nra criminal intent. It has to be embarrassing supporting a line that promotes killing children and fueling drugs into this country , all in the name of greed. The gun cultist are only interested in is getting their cut. Got the $4000 tax break from the GOP that’s in support of the nra...oops, they didn’t .
    https://www.npr.org/2011/01/05/132652351/tracking-gun-dealers-linked-to-mexican-violence
     
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    No, gun cultist admit to their ignorance every time they post as no one actually thought this was anything but a scam. The nra lackeys , but they’ll buy anything.
     
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    If you wouldn't respect the document that has not changed in 227 years then I would have to believe you don't respect Americans either. Americans have had 227 years to change it and they haven't.
     
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    Actually, it has changed 27 times. It's only been unchanged since 1992.
     
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    And I was merely suggesting that there are laws which could have stopped him. There were so many times this Douglas HS shooter could have been stopped before he killed anyone. Those who had the means, those who had the power to do something did nothing until afterwards. After the shooting those who could have made a difference seemed to only have excuses as to why they didn't. So again, my point is, lets not start changing laws, lets not start making new laws, lets try enforcing those we already have and see if that makes a difference. Creating new laws that will also be ignored, that will not be followed seems to be a wasted effort and a "feel good" measure on the part of the anti-gun crowd.

    Here is one article on the cop who did nothing at Douglas HS. There are many others on the net.
    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/...g/fl-florida-shooting-sro-20180222-story.html
     
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    The insults begin when you run out of cogent arguments. Thanks for trying.
     
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    Valid point. In these exchanges of comments with Wombat I have been referring specifically to the Second Amendment.
     
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    The truth shouldn’t be insulting. It’s like talking to a climate change denier who thinks he’s smarter then every university in the world. A gun cultist think they know more then everyone else in the free world too.
     
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    The cited article was discussed extensively when it first came out. It is just as erroneous and false now as it was then, when it first came out.
     
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    Having greater numbers does not amount to one having the truth on their side.
     
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