Hailed as a Model for Successful Intervention, Libya Proves to be the Exact Opposite

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McClatchy: WikiLeaks cables show that it was all about the oil

Of course! Of course! "It was all about the oil" in Libya:

There isn't a U.S. war that the New York Times and company didn't support, including Libya:



That also includes even the most egregious imperial campaigns that the free press pretends never happened because it's just too embarrassing for the holy state and themselves to mention.

 

all we did was give the people a chance, what they did with that opportunity is up to them, not us

 

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gave a chance to Iraq, Libya and Syria?.. no, quite the contrary, the West gave them no chance; these prosperous countries have been tampered with and destroyed, only because the West was jealous of their wealth, prosperity and order.

 

The trouble was not the "regime change" in Libya itself, but the lack of post-war strategy.
It is absolutely OK to imprison a man, who killed his wife, but not without taking care of their children.
Otherwise they could end as beggars or gangsters or even as terrorists.

 

The trouble was the regime change in Libya. It was part of the US strategy to destablize the region.

General Wesley Clark repeating what he was told by Paul Wolfowitz, author of the Wolfowitz Doctrine.

 

Wesley Clark is just grandstanding.. He is irrelevant.

There were more than a half dozen foreign oil companies working in Libya and altogether they were producing about 1.4 million bpd.. Not a lot of oil.

This article is a crock.. The US could NOT control the Arab Spring in Libya.

 

The regime change was crazy and not in the interests of those who did it, meaning France and the UK. Gaddafi was keeping migrants/refugees from getting to Europe and knew he was keeping islamists at bay. That is why he didn't believe what happened would happen till it did. He did not believe the West was so stupid to work against it's own interests.

I had to laugh when I saw the people of Benghazi holding up signs offering the West it's hands on their oil if they intervened! God they knew how stupid we are.

 

Syria was not prosperous.. Drought, dust bowls and sectarian strife has dominated Syria for many years.. plus falling oil production.

Libya was a minor oil producer and Iraq was crippled by 20 years of war and sanctions. Iraqi oil production has been in the tank since Gulf War 1.......

 

Hillary Clinton with Libyan soldiers in October 2011. The 'V for victory' gesture seems slightly misplaced at the moment.



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When you only have Russia to compare against, everyone else looks prosperous.

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And what's with that stupid expression on her face? Did one of the guys behind her stick his finger up her ass as the photo was taken?

 

Apparently, she thinks backing terrorists to overthrow foreign governments is super awesome......

Ambassador Stevens surely disagrees.......

The Sexual Pathology of the Libyan Attackers



Soon after the terrorist attack that left four Americans dead in Libya, reports began coming in that U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens was not only murdered by the Muslim mob, but also sodomized both before and after his death, and his corpse dragged through the streets. This grotesque defilement was willfully suppressed by the mainstream media, who were focused like a laser on a much more horrific story: presidential candidate Mitt Romney talking like a conservative at a fundraiser. Thank goodness that in these difficult times we can count on the media to cover the news we really need to know.

As FrontPage Shillman Journalism Fellow Raymond Ibrahim writes,

Sexual abuse and degradation is a common tactic used against non-Muslims, especially women, as the repeatedly raped Lara Logan found… Nor are men immune from such rapes. In fact, the photos of Ambassador Stevens—stripped of clothes, bloodied and tortured right before he was killed—very much resemble the photos of Gaddafi right before he was killed. One U.S.-supported “freedom-fighter,” for example, can be seen sodomizing Gadaffi with a rod as others dragged him along.

Ibrahim finishes by noting that “the al-Qaeda affiliated men who sexually abused and killed Gaddafi are the same men who sexually abused and killed America’s ambassador.”

 

Well Scotland is a minor oil producer but I would not have thought being in the top ten in the world would be that minor. The people lived well on it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Libya

 

Not really - it's a pretty accurate list if you ask me, even though the time line is out (but then it hasn't been all plain sailing for the neocons). If it had not been for Obama and Putin you could add a checkmark against Iran by now as well.

 

don't cite media myths, talk to real Syrians, a well-off people before the West began to meddle there.

Libya was a Scandinavia of the Middle East, only without taxes. Gaddafi was killed because he did not bow down before the West.

no, it wasn't. Iraq was a prosperous state under Saddam, this is why it was destroyed.

 

Iraqi oil production exceeded that of before Gulf war 1, a few years ago.

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Syria was in a massive civil war before the West began to meddle there.

 

Actually, he claims it was a General that told him. A General he has never named. And the claim was that they were going to take out 7 countries in 5 years. A claim from 2001. 2006 has come and gone.

 

Yes, I also remember that. But in a later video interview he cited Paul Wolfowitz. Maybe he meant that Wolfowitz told the general. Or maybe he's protecting his source. And it's possible I misheard or misunderstood, although I do not think this is the case.

Planning and wanting to do something and actually doing it are not the same things.

 

There is not a shred of evidence that the Ambassador was Sodomized.

He was taken by car to Benghazi hospital (there are no emergency services in Libya) where he died of smoke inhalation and cardiac arrest.

 

The West is jealous of these places because they were wealthy, prosperous, and orderly??? Are you kidding??

 

How much oil does Scotland produce per day?

If the Scots were involved in a civil war, oil production would crash. The oil business hates a war zone.

 

I don't know Margot but it does have the largest oil reserves in the EU. That being said due to the drop in price I am certainly not relying on it at all. People are being made redundant and there is no intention of opening up any other fields. If Scotland was Independent it would likely Nationalise it and not bother selling when the price is low. We also have our green energy to work on.

My point wasn't really anything to do with Scotland - just that I think it would be fair to say it was a minor producer in the scheme of things whereas Libya seemed able to basically live on hers and provide a fairly decent material standard to her people.

P.S Scotland has zero intention of getting involved in a civil war

 

Libya was a stupid mistake, as is any intervention in the Middle Eastern area. The ONLY smart activity in these nations is NO activity.

We need to learn lessons from the last few decades and leave the Islamic world alone until it self destructs...which is happening now.

Once we stop sticking our nose in the stank and get the hell out, they can focus on killing themselves instead of US.

We should just stop giving a (*)(*)(*)(*) and pull everything (including aid) from the whole cluster(*)(*)(*)(*) they represent.

 

Libyan oil production was of course very important. Libya imports 90% of their food and oil revenues pay for that as well as other social programs... Makes a person wonder why the Libyans would crap in their own nest, doesn't it?

I had hoped that they would revert to the old Libyan Constitution they had under King Idris because it was positively enlightened ..... and that was obviously a long shot.

Buzzard produces 120-200,000 bpd but Scotland's economy is far more diverse than Libya's..

Libya's production was far larger and inexpensive to recover.

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The US couldn't control the Arab Spring.. in Libya or elsewhere. I think the "intervention" was a panicked effort to stem the tide of Libyan refugees flooding into Italy.

 

Like I said...a stupid mistake. Libya was at least a step away from absolute intervention, but has turned into the same nightmare that everything else in the Middle East is. As stated, we should get out, stay out, watch from afar and focus on keeping the cancer from spreading.

Why play Humanitarian for people who oppose Humanity?