Hailed as a Model for Successful Intervention, Libya Proves to be the Exact Opposite

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  1. Margot2

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    Consider that Dutch Shell and BP have each written off 700 million dollars in facilities..........
     
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    I agree. It would have been much better to let Qaddafi put down his little rebellion. At least Qaddafi was not exporting terrorism and he made Libya a fairly stable country. Now that we overthrew Qaddafi, Libya has become a safe haven and training ground for terrorist groups like ISIS, AQ and others. Libya has become a launching off place for terrorist attacks on African nations that border Libya's southern border. Libya is now an infiltration route into southern Europe.

    We have launched some attacks against ISIS in Libya and according to Secretary of Defense Carter are contemplating and planning more attacks in Libya. Which may or may not be limited to air strikes.

    Mean while the reason for our intervention, Humanitarian, those 5-10,000 civilians we supposedly saved, the different terrorist organizations in Libya have now killed 2-3 as many. There is now an inept government in Libya scared to death to leave Tripoli. Libya is in chaos and soon we will have to intervene again.

    Yep, it would have been better just to let Qaddafi do his thing. It also would have been better to let Assad do his thing in Syria, perhaps no ISIS. To keep stability in some of these middle eastern country it takes a strongman. A strongman according to western standards is quite evil. But once that strongman is done away with, chaos, destruction, killings, war between tribes and religious factions ensure. That country becomes a much worse place than if we just left it alone.
     
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    The first report I saw was on Al Jazeera and it stated that he had been sodomized. I never saw such a claim again in Western reporting or in AJ.
     
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    It is time for the western world to follow suit and quit throwing good money after bad. it is seriously time to cut losses and leave completely.
     
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    Actually I would like to see NATO bomb the oil facilities and port facilities in Eastern Libya.
     
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    Jealous of Libya? You are a moron. Those people live in huts, in one of the most God-forsaken, desolate areas of the world. No one in America wishes we lived like they do like in North Africa, or anywhere in Africa.
     
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    You have never seen Libya, have you?
     
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    Tripoli at night.

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    This would serve no purpose beyond pissing folks off even more, temporarily hurting terrorist finances a little bit, and destroying what little infrastructure Libya still has.
     
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    Now that would be real "shock and awe"! Ty for thinking out of the box.

    Of course, you are not in the WH, DOS or DOD - alas.
     
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    Well, al Baghdadi has moved into Eastern Libya to take advantage of funding ISIS thru Libyan oil facilities.
     
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    And....this involves the Western World exactly HOW?

    ISIS will take over and Kill Libyans in Libya....regardless of what anyone does except Libyans. Everyone simply needs to back away from the Middle Eastern/African Islamic nightmare and quit trying to "Help" people who cannot be helped and will hate you for trying. No matter which side you pick you are making enemies of the guys trying to kill them, and eventually even the folks you try to assist will hate you as well.....this region is nothing but a no win scenario poised to blow up, literally.
     
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    WRONG !
    All you did was to Bomb a viable prosperous nation back into The Stone Age,
    ...... & to steal their Gold & facilitate the exportation of their weaponry to ISIS

    Would that the average Ignorant American would allow himself to become aware
    ................. of the Blood of Innocents, smeared upon their hands & face by their
    ........................................................................ Puppet Masters in Washington :steamed:

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    Libya:
    Ten Things About Gaddafi They Don’t Want You to Know

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/libya-ten-things-about-gaddafi-they-dont-want-you-to-know/5414289


    Libya: From Africa’s Richest State Under Gaddafi,
    To Failed State After NATO Intervention

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/libya-...-failed-state-after-nato-intervention/5408740


    The U.S. / NATO Gold Heist Of Libya.
    http://presscore.ca/the-u-s-nato-gold-heist-of-libya.html


    Libya War: What They Don’t Want You to Know
    https://www.corbettreport.com/libya-war-what-they-dont-want-you-to-know/



    The US Openly
    Sending Heavy Weapons From Libya To Syrian Rebels

    http://www.businessinsider.com/obam...ending-heavy-weapons-to-syrian-rebels-2012-12

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    This is EXACTLY the sort of Willful Ignorance my previous post would hope to EXPOSE
    It 'Involves The Western World' - because - 'The Western World' made it all possible :steamed:

    You can say what Lies you like about Gadhafi, but he kept the Moslem Extremist NutJobs at bay,
    ............ and ruled a factious clannish Land with a secular panache, that was the envy of all of Africa

    It was your so called - 'Western World' - that supported the religious extremist Rebellion and
    sponsored Gadhafi's overthrow, to prevent the establishment of a Gold backed African Dinar

    Which would have brought an end to 'The Western World's' EXPLOITATION of Africa


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  16. Eadora

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    An absolutely Gorgeous Display - of :flagus: American :flagus: Willful Ignorance :steamed:

    I suppose "Texas" also feels that those God-Forsaken Libyan's Hate
    ......................................................................... him for his Freedoms :steamed:


    Now if you want - "God-Forsaken & Desolate" - I suggest you go to Detroit

    Though I risk a Moderator's censure, because that would be kind of like telling you to go to Hell
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    ...UH...had you bothered to research in some way what I have stated for some time, you might have noted that my stance is pretty much what you tried to state out the fancy font work. It is obvious that the "western world" has mistakenly removed the only stability to be found in Middle Eastern/African society. The ONLY way to control this violent and fractured cultural mentality is to be even more violent and controlling to scare them into check. By removing Saddam/Khadafi et al.....we left them to try running them selves which has never worked and never will.

    Thus do I recommend leaving them to kill and destroy each other and hope those with power in the region grow a set and fix it themselves if they can. It is very unlikely they can or will do this but, certainly won't if they think we will do it for them.
     
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    We need to call a spade a spade. Foolish posts need to be identified and mocked.
     
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    I agree. Some cultures are thousands of years behind the West. If they have a thuggish dictator keeping a lid on things, we need to let the dictator stay in power ... no matter how ruthless they are.

    But if those same dictators begin to attack the West, they have to go.
     
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    Are you still under some illusion that the US caused or could control the Arab Spring?
     
  21. tecoyah

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    "IF" they attack I agree. The problem being that as of late we do not wait until they do, we assume they will and take them out...never thinking about what will happen when we do. Thus do we see the fruits of our stupidity...we made this mess by doing so and need to stop doing it.
     
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    You asked:
    & I told you:
    It 'Involves The Western World' - because - 'The Western World' made it all possible
    Deal with it:


    ISIS did NOT take over in Libya & proceed to kill Libyan's - "in spite of what anyone did, or could do"
    ... but specifically - because - of what the Bloody Hand of American interventionist Foreign Policy did
    .......................................................................................................................................... & continues to do



    We have seen these
    same sort of money backed American S#1t policies, lever, wedge & polarize a peoples religious & racial Hatreds
    We have seen them sponsored & practiced all over the World in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Ukraine, Guatemala, etc etc

    And when things don't work out perfectly according to plan & the people are not inspired to kill each other fast enough
    We have the Washington Puppet Masters call for a Humanitarian War which sponsors Extremists just to stir things Up

    & OH ! how quickly ALL the trained & Willfully Ignorant American public joins & Cheers On, in the resulting Propaganda
    inspired, tightly choreographed Dance of Death delivered by American Drones, Bombs & other assorted Auxiliary Puppets

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    IT's ALL ANCIENT TEXT BOOK DIVIDE & CONQUER MACHIAVELLIAN POLITICS PLAYED OUT TO A TEE
    But not to worry, The IGNORANT great unwashed will never catch on. They never do - They just send us their
    ...................................................................................................... children to enrich us & to feed our Cannons
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    Meanwhile
    WE can wish the Disgusting Absurd & Ignorant hope - that these people, who WE have been so neatly trained
    to so Fear & Hate, can be inspired to Kill each other, without the messy Intervention of our Humanitarian Wars

    & WE - WE are all :flagus: Patriots :flagus: and WE are they who are :flagus: Exceptional :flagus: and OUR hands are clean :steamed:

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    We gave the Iraqis a chance. We trashed Libya.
     
  24. Eadora

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    In this we Agree
     
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    Notice the absence of any bobbing damage and the abundance of damage from their civil war.
     

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