Half of All U.S. Adults Have Immediate Family Member Currently or Previously Incarcerated

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    And you write this, who betrayed his people for 300 varieties of sausage. :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    You got it wrong. I did not betray anyone. I do not support mass murder (past or future) for cheap sausage. Don’t confuse me with yourself.
     
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    You do not need to make an excuse.
     
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    What a load of bull$hit.
     
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    "Half of All U.S. Adults Have Immediate Family Member Currently or Previously Incarcerated"

    The gun nuts say that if you make firearms illegal then all you do is make law-abiding, gun-toting citizens criminals. If the same rule applies to crime in general then the problem with so many Americans incarcerated is the fault of American laws.
     
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    Just admit it - you don’t give a damn about human lives as long as your ice cream and bread are cheap. That’s what you glorify in Stalin. That’s what Stalin implemented.

    Russians will continue to be cheap human garbage as long as they support that.
     
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    This threads about people in domestic prisons.
     
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    Oh? And whose side does the ACLU nearly always take -- infamously?! The ACLU loves to rush in and be advocates for anyone or any group who hates the United States, tries to rip off or scam American taxpayers, and works against this country.
     
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    You have no way of rebutting what I said, do you?
     
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    I escaped the cycle and reformed and this is your glib and flippant contribution? No wonder people hesitate to share on a forum.
    I learned enough not to feel the need to troll a contribution to a real topic in a juvenile manner. That is 13 years behind me, got any more childish one liners?
     
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    Again. You do not have to make excuses. I am not angry with you. I do not care for you.
     
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    Paragraph 1,2,3,4 directly relate to the topic of the post. The remaining items indirectly affect the topic. I can only add - in the United States the largest number of prisoners in the world. The reason is the US fascist state.
     
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    There is nothing to refute. Your nonsense is not worthy of attention.
    If you have a brain, and it has at least one gyrus, try to think - if 60 million were killed personally by Stalin, who fought in the Second World War? Children and old men fought at Stalingrad and stormed Berlin?
    And after that, the USSR was the first of the countries of the Second World War to abolish food rations, starting from 1948 (three years after the war), the prices of food and consumer goods decreased every year, a space program was created, thanks to which the USSR was the first in the world to launch artificial the satellite, they sent a living organism into space, and after Stalin’s death, they sent a man for the first time in the cosmos. They created the world's first nuclear power plants, restored the industrial potential of the USSR and a number of other achievements.
    Who did this? If 60 million were killed in the gulag, and almost 30 million died in the second world war. Only a complete idiot can write that Stalin was a tyrant.
    I believe that Stalin was overly kind and sentimental. For example, Stalin returned the patriarch to the Russian church. (Peter 1 forbade the patriarch and the Russian church was headed by the senod, where Peter was the head). Unfortunately, Stalin not ordered to shoot all the traitors and deserters, such as Benderavs and Solzhenitsyn....But only a person who has a brain can understand all this.
     
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    Guns are not "crime" that is where you took a sharp turn at comparasin fail.
     
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    That's a dumb collusion. There are a lot of factors involved, one of which being a very diverse culture.
     
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    the war on drugs has harmed more lives then the drugs themselves ever could
     
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    problem is cases like this

    "Twice Wrongly Convicted of Murder - Ray Krone Is Set Free After 10 Years"

    http://www.forejustice.org/wc/ray_krone_JD_vol2_i9.htm

    too many innocent people would be executed by the state for your entertainment, lwop is the better choice as when mistakes are found, at least they can be undone, death is final.. then the state becomes the murderer
     
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    That is debatable, a former friend lost his son and nephew within 3 days due to shooting dope. I doubt cops would of done that.
     
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    and the war on drugs did not stop that, proving my point

    the abuse is there legal or not, just one makes criminals of those that did not abuse

    I know people that died from Alcohol, and I do not drink, tough I would never support making it illegal for those that do drink as I think that does more harm then good

    big difference between saying alcohol is bad for you and alcohol prohibition is good for society
     
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    No. It's you who missed the turn and drove straight into a cornfield. I blame it on your English comprehension. Maybe you ought to read my post again?
     
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    You are due an apology for my one-liner, and I do apologize.

    That said, perhaps I'm misreading your posts here, but you come across as very much of an authoritarian, advocating for more prison use.

    Apologies for that if I have misinterpreted your posts. Perhaps you could elaborate and clarify: do you think that prison is an appropriate policy for victimless crimes?
     
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    I tend to agree with you for the most part. Clearly, prisons allow too much of the wrong type of interaction among prisoners. While I agree that offenders would not want to go to or go back to prison, the idea of a deterrent doesn't seem to work well in the sense that people usually don't debate the pros and cons of a crime before they commit one. It seems most wouldn't do the crime if they thought they were going to get caught. In that sense, I think it's the certainty more so than the severity of the punishment (meaning monotony and not cruelty) that would act as a deterrent.
     
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    Do you mean that you and the indigenous peoples of America have a common culture? Are you laughing? After you exterminated the indigenous people of America, and the survivors were driven into reservations, you suddenly started talking about a common culture. It's amazing. Recently in the US hung everywhere the sign "the entrance of Negros and dogs is prohibited," "Only for whites."...And you have a common culture now? :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    "Recently"...? :spin: . Well, I'm an old guy, with a l-o-n-g memory. I haven't seen signs like the one you described anywhere in the United States in well over FIFTY YEARS!

    Has the United States always been some kind of model for idyllic, behavioral perfection? Has any other country on Earth?

    upload_2018-12-13_9-48-9.jpeg . "OK, let's get all these damned German savages cleared out, and then we can set up shop!"
     
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    While I have partial agreement, let no one forget the realities of police corruption, police collusion along with prosecutorial and judicial "misconduct", which I call, criminality as well as defense collusion with the prosecutor, judiciary, and/or police. There is not system of prosecution, commonly called, "Justice" that is flawless because people are flawed which such things that encourage predisposition based on a variety of issues that are unrelated to a case that they are dealing. This will undoubtedly initiate and outcome that is less than stellar. So I say, unless there is concrete proof that the accused has undoubtedly committed the offense, let the person go free with prejudice against future prosecution of the same offense. I say this because in 2016, I was wrongfully accused, spent almost an entire year incarcerated, had to dismiss both "defense" attorneys and eventually had the case dismissed due to due diligence with prejudice against the District Attorney's office. As much as I like the system of these United States of [North] America, I am well aware of people's corruption, vendettas and ill-intent.
     
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