Oh lordy! I'd love to read your explanation of THAT one..... To me it would mean that many more out of a job! Or do you have some hidden jobs for these millions....or did you mean a booming economy for the wealthy who could take advantage of even more desperate people??? LOL! TOO absurd!
You overlook one important detail, that God has given that child an eternal soul even at conception. That is why sanctity of life is important.
You have heard of "Baby bonds" or "Birth Incentives?" Japan, Germany, France, Thailand....government has an interest in stable population growth. This is not a new concept.
OMG! What exactly has that to do with a booming economy and having enough jobs for all those people you want here????? To me it would mean that many more out of a job! Or do you have some hidden jobs for these millions....or did you mean a booming economy for the wealthy who could take advantage of even more desperate people???
Are you okay? The number of punctuation marks denoting excitement concern me for your blood pressure. After you calm down and look into the relationship between population growth and healthy economies, then we'll talk. I have no interest in arguing with ignorance.
Not to mention with the Boomers aging, there won't be sufficient numbers of people to replace them so what's next? Euthanasia? Oh wait! Why not just get rid of all the undesirables like the sick, the infirm, the mentally deficient, political enemies, homosexuals, etc. I wonder where we heard that before?
"""Not to mention with the Boomers aging, there won't be sufficient numbers of people to replace them so what's next? """" Jobs for more people.... - - - Updated - - - LOL! Translation to truth: "I have no answers".
Like the economy of Africa, I guess, right? I think it's time for you to read some economics books instead or in addition to the Bible!
The recognition that women have the right to make choices concerning their own body and their own life is a VERY joyful celebration.
The only people who really bring up Margeret Sanger are the lifers who think pro-choice people are somehow connected to her. Honestly, Sanger is 100% irrelevant to my being pro-choice. I don't worship Thomas Edison just because I enjoy indoor lighting either.
And all those who are pro-choice on here okgrannie, fugazi, gorn captain, bowerbird, cady, sadanie, pasithea, makedde, junkieturtle, WhatNow!?, lolo, are celebrating the death of millions of unborn children. . They just love celebrating death, and the slaughter....this is their aphrodisiac...they get off on it in ways I can only imagine. It's child sacrifice and they love it, embrace it and want it legal. Whats next guys? Legalizing infanticide?
The key point is that it is up to the women concerned. Those who want to boss and bully other people are just rubbish, slavers who want to force millions to be born only to join your addict prison population and be shot to prove your 'freedom'. Ohne mich, chums.
OMG....so killing them helped the population of the country? Your are unbelievable. Your position is absolutely Hitleresque...you epitomixe his goals and ideals...one in the same baby. I have debated this for ten years....you just now topped my list of pro-aborts...congratulations.
LOL! Your DRRRRAMA is just so silly that it doesn't help your cause at all....so keep it up! Oh and "you are" = you're "your" is possesive...like your car, your body - - - Updated - - - you debated this for ten years???!!! And it's still LEGAL. ...maybe you should get a clue.....
Well you did it, just because you changed religion (as in having an abortion to stopping anyone else having one), doesn't give you the right to force your misguided opinion onto others [Just in case CM doesn't realise the next bit is being said with sarcastic overtones] Oh god yes I love it, all those little babies being sucked out and sluiced away, nearly makes me cum every time [Sarcastic bit ended now]
I can't even begin to...uh....if you really think that's....uh.....aw screw it, there'd be more of a point in trying to teach a toaster to play Monopoly.
Didn't someone just mention that most women abort because they feel they have no other choice--maybe it was another thread. Anyway, it all disgusting. --Disgusting and tragic for woman and for the dead human beings killed in an abortion. - - - Updated - - - Didn't someone just mention that most women abort because they feel they have no other choice--maybe it was another thread. Anyway, it all disgusting. --Disgusting and tragic for woman and for the dead human beings killed in an abortion.
What's tragic is the number of lifers who refuse to put their money where there mouth is when it comes to contraceptives and drastically shrinking abortion numbers. So many lifers still oppose free and easily accessible contraceptives which would ultimately aid their goal in ending the need for abortion. So many just want to make it illegal and then go on ignoring the millions of women who will continue to abort illegally and unsafely instead of addressing the root of the problem, poverty, lack of sex education, and lack of availability of cheap contraceptives. This is sadly due in part to the religious beliefs most lifers hold and their very conservative political views that it's every man for himself (or in this case every pregnant woman for herself) and that they need to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps, this same view goes towards those precious fetuses after they've been born. Just ignore them, ignore the problems they face in this world and pat yourself on the back knowing that you brought another life into this world and are no longer interested in that persons fate or the fact that they might not be getting everything they need to get ahead in life. Then when that person, who once was a precious little fetus that you cared so much about but don't care about now since they passed through the birth canal turns to a life of crime and drugs from growing up in poverty and not having what they needed you'll just throw them in prison with all the other once-were-precious-fetuses and let them rot in prison, or even better put them to death. All because lifers just want to see these precious fetuses be born and then ignore them after the fact and force them to just figure it out for themselves in life instead of addressing the root of the problem to begin with and actually HELPING these precious human beings born into this world! That is the real tragedy.
I think contraception ADDS to the problem by promoting a misconception that there is such a thing as "safe" sex. The "it won't happen to me" mentality and the casual attitude toward sex (and the natural consequence of sex--babies) leads to more people HAVING sex when the natural consequence is not something they are ready to or want to deal with. This isn't even addressing the abortifacient aspects of hormonal contraception. This is just BS--even in the 80s I could get free contraception from a clinic down the street. BTW--being on contraception and presuming I was "safe" led to son #1 AND son #2. When I quit BC and listened to my body, I KNEW when I was fertile and my other babies were NOT surprises. Thank God I did not abort when I was unexpectedly pregnant, my two oldest boys are delights and I am so proud of them (and myself for rising to the occasion of motherhood even though I was young, immature, poor, and uneducated). Your baseless accusation and generalizations about pro-lifers is bs also. Not worth the time....
Lets see now a woman on the pill (99%) and a man using a condom (98%) when they have sex is pretty much 100% effective . .the problem lies in the fact that some woman and some men don't know how to use the correctly .. thus education is required. In order to make contraception 100% effective there needs to be more investment in research. The consequences of sex only equates to becoming pregnant to ultra conservative religious crowd, you can preach abstinence as much as you like, it won't stop (or even reduce) people doing it. Lets think here, the natural consequences of a whole host of things have been changed due to mankind's intervention, it is what we do - we invent things to avert the natural consequences. Excuse me .. this is plainly wrong, hormonal contraception stops the bodies natural hormones from releasing the egg .. there is no pregnancy, even most pro-lifers agree that an egg is not a human life. Contraception is not freely available in all countries, for example in the USA it has only recently been covered by insurance companies .. before then it had to be paid for. The fact that you had two sons while using contraception only means you were either not using it correctly or it was the wrong type of contraception for you .. why after the first did you not insist your husband/partner wear a condom as well, as the saying goes "once bitten, twice shy". The fact you decided to continue with your pregnancies only shows that you had a choice, you could have decided to abort, yet you want to remove that choice from every other female . .a case of imposing your views onto others, how would you feel if a law was passed making religion illegal? You really need to read some of the comments from other pro-lifers here where they have categorically stated that post-birth is nothing to do with them and not their concern.
