Has the Republican Party become irrelevant?

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  1. btthegreat

    btthegreat Well-Known Member

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    Yes they are verging on irrelevence but not for the reasons mentioned in the OP. The problem is not with the outragious bills they are passing as part of their culture war against all things 'woke', and the LBGTQ community or their anti abortion bills. The problem is that too often they simply have forgotten to govern, how to build coalitions and solve practical problems etc. The new MAGA GOP are not remotely interested in getting anything done that will improve the lives of their constituants by improving government services. Performative politics is all that Congressional republicans are interested in and that approach is infecting state legislatures, city councils, County commissions, school boards and even the library boards.

    I say 'verging on irrelevence', only because the act of obstructing government function, will keep them 'relevent' to the degree that their power to impede, to obstruct impacts citizens.
     
  2. WalterSobchak

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    Your opinion that murdering LQBTQ people would be bad ONLY because it would bring them more attention is disturbing and sad.
     
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    Re: Inheritance and health care:
    Health care is pretty will covered by Medicare. Retirement homes are poetic justice for kids who won't take care of mom or dad in their final years where they can't live alone. There goes the money once they are in dependent care.
    Gen Y is turning conservative because they are in their peak earning years, and the economy is crap.
    Gen Z is still ideas without experience, and still trying to find careers they want to be in that pay the bills.
    Footnote: My career was heavily influenced by recessions. You get stuck in jobs too long because those above you aren't moving up - kind of like Gen Y right now.
    What generation is after Z? Gen A? I do like the alphabetical labeling. It is easier to keep track of.
     
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    You are calling me disingenuous? In your Post # 19 your wrote

    "No limits on drugs, sex and rules and FREE EVERYTHING is an appealing concept to youngsters."

    Was that your youth? Because it was definitely not my youth. I worked 32 hours a week when I went to college, so did most of the student who went to same collage.

    Do you think majority people 18-44 are doing drugs, having sex and getting everything free?

    This is the kind of mindset of Republican party turn people away from republican party. Republicans think young generation, liberals , African Americans , immigrants have no morality, no sense of responsibility, they are lazy and all they want handouts.
     
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    Republican thinks regardless of the age , anyone who is not republican doing drugs, having sex with everyone , having abortion on-demand so they can sin more, watching TV 24/7 and government paying for everything.

    In reality 70% US GDP are from Blue congressional district.
     
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    Of course they're anti-conservative, those people don't change or adapt or accept that the world doesn't stay the same forever. When one party spends a shitload of time and money to "anti-woke" causes because that's clearly a big threat to the country, then there's no reason for anyone to want to flock to them.
     
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    Seeing what other nations are able to provide their citizens with similar or even less total taxes isn’t brainwashing.

    Previous generations made sacrifices so the next generation would have fewer struggles — this is the first time we are seeing the retiring generation saying “f those little socialists” while pilfering the system on the way to their death bed.
     
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    Got any comparisons? I would love to see an in depth analysis of what "other" countries the left looks to as role models spend their tax dollars on. More importantly, I would love to see what they DON'T waste tax dollars on compared to us. All stuff that young people do not give 0.00001 craps about
     
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    I believe this is myth.Over time our culture—our environment—shifts and possibly changes our position (depending on our ability to adapt).

    Personally I don’t believe the state has an interest in our personal decisions so the legalization of interracial marriage, gay marriage, or roe v. wade, or voting rights isn’t going to shift me but could others. It’s also the reason for my WTF attitude toward the GOP (especially the last forty years) as they attempt to roll back gains in those areas. Let adults make their own decisions, who am I to judge?

    Free stuff? Another myth.
     
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  10. Sandy Shanks

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    So you agree with everything Republicans are doing as described in the OP.

    That says a lot about your political persuasion.

    May I assume you are happy?
     
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    "President Trump famously declared during his 2016 campaign that he loved the “poorly educated” because voters with lower levels of schooling delivered an overwhelming share of votes to him," the conservative Washington Times.

    Its leader and the leading Republican candidate for the Presidency, Donald Trump, has so much baggage Republicans make an effort to avoid talking about him. Grassroots Republicans, who are infatuated with Trump, avoid talking about him or what their party is doing.

    That may be true because what their party is doing is irrelevant and does not warrant discussion.

    Republican leaders engage in various activities that are designed to keep its rural base happy. These activities have no worthwhile purpose.

    Republican legislatures are passing laws that severely restrict transgenders in education, sports, and medical care.

    Various Republicans are waging war against something called woke. They do not know what woke is, and neither do grassroots Republicans, but it sounds good.

    While attacking woke, these same Republicans are attacking the Critical Race Theory, which is an effort by Republicans to show that slavery and racism do not exist, so, we shouldn't feel guilty. So say Republicans for the benefit of their base.

    Talking about irrelevancy, House Republicans recently passed a bill concerning the debt limit that they knew was going nowhere. They think the meaningless bill is a bargaining chip with the President. Not only is the bill irrelevant, but it raises serious questions about Republican intelligence.

    To keep its evangelical base happy, Republicans think it is a great idea to pass laws in which the state controls the health of pregnant women. Come to think of it, that is not irrelevant. That is an assault on our democracy.

    The Republican governor of Florida is fighting Disney World. Disney is Florida's largest employer, paying over a billion dollars in taxes every year. Even Republicans are questioning what the Republican governor is doing. The Republican governor wants to become our next President.

    Republicans have grown weary of trying to find something wrong with President Biden who quietly goes about his duties without fanfare or controversy. So, they attack the President's son and his computer, Hunter Biden.

    Former vice-president Pence testified recently concerning former President Trump's role in the Jan. 6, 2021 insurrection attempt to overthrow our elected government.

    But grassroots Republicans are happy.
     
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    No reasonable person could extract support for the republican party from my posts. I oppose the majority of what republicans want to control.

    Making claims that call for the operation of another person's mind only erodes credibility. Ask and I will tell you. assume and.. we know that that stands for.
     
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    Another thing I wanna add regarding the Republican party of today, way too many of them cling to the Bible for everything and claim they're all about morals, ethics and good beliefs while doing pretty much the exact opposite. So many people love to use religion as their personal crutch or a shield to try and do questionable things or as a defense when called out.
     
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    Just like devout democrats believe their party makes life better for the poor. They do the exact opposite, but faith remains strong.
     
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    Being I am hardly an example of all so called uneducated Americans I find your comment presumptuous at best. However the fact that you… An educated highly intelligent person is in-line with the ideology that a man can become a woman is not surprising and further iterates my original comment. I also never advocated for their death but your parallels seem to suggest I do. What I really advocate for is the fact that it’s a mental illness. There is nothing physical to suggest it’s anything but a mental illness. However, here you are….
     
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    Oh did I see “only” in my quote? Or is this another educated magic trick?
     
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    You said murdering them would be bad because it would bring them attention. Then you decided to remove your statement. Accept your post for how awful it is.
     
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    Another educated magic trick it is. Not surprised the self proclaimed educated individuals are putting facts aside and talking about words they wish my quote included. I’d say I’m surprised but I’m not.
     
  19. Sandy Shanks

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    I gave up.

    I could not find one Republican who actually dealt with the issues in the OP in which Republican irrelevancy was explained. However, these Republicans seem to agree with what the Republican Party is doing while avoiding any mention of what their party is doing.

    That is quite typical for Republicans. Republicans avoid talking about what their party is doing.

    Among other matters, this was stated in the OP:

    To keep its evangelical base happy, Republicans think it is a great idea to pass laws in which the state controls the health of pregnant women. Come to think of it, that is not irrelevant. That is an assault on our democracy.

    So, we can only conclude that these Republicans endorse state control of a pregnant woman's health. Since nearly every Republican-controlled state has harsh restrictions on abortion, we can only conclude that nearly all Republicans favor state control of a pregnant woman's health.
     
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    Don't pretend you didn’t say it now. We all saw it. You obviously don't care if folks you claim have a mental illness get murdered because it would bring attention to them.

    Own it dude.
     
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    Thats because your OP is full of fake information and exaggerations.
    So I'll help you out and answer it

    Just opinion and exaggeration with no facts or supporting documents

    Opinion and exaggeration

    False and you couldn't prove that if you had to

    False. Sounds more like you don't know what woke is.
    Woke used in todays content is slang for exaggerated and over alertness to racial or social discrimination and injustice for their own personification. Putting yourself above everyone else with your exaggerated alertness just to show how engaged in the fight for justice and equality you are, when your really not.

    False
    CRT doesn't teach that. CRT applies your stance in the world according to your race.
    But I am not surprised you would falsify information about it, so you can push it.

    Says the party of
    Historical Inflation
    Historical gas prices
    Historical grocery prices

    You don't live in a Democracy but you do regurgitate leftist talking head claims. A lot.
    And abortion was never a constitutional right. It should be left up to the states to vote on. Not a government mandate.
    But we all understand how you love the government running your life.

    And even Democrats support DeSantis. So whats your point

    Abd thats about the extent of what he does.

    If theres nothing there, why are you so worried? Its because Hunter and Biden have sold this country to the highest bidder for their own financial gain, You just don't want it found out.

    So tell us all about it. Weird you couldn't even provide it.

    Feel better now?
     
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    Okay, there’s a 50-50 chance that a majority of Americans will vote for Republicans in 2024. That’s not irrelevancy, at least when it comes to elections. You mentioned abortion, 5% of all Americans list Abortion as their most important issue. Behind inflation, jobs and the economy, healthcare, climate change, national security, guns, immigration, civil rights, taxes, education, then abortion. Question 37.


    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/wo8h43uvsg/econTabReport.pdf


    I think over the last 50 years of Roe, those who were avid pro-choice became democrats, those avid pro-lifers became Republicans. These folks I speak of let their stance on the abortion issue decide who they’ll vote for. I also think most swing voters, independents just want the abortion issue to go away with many not able to understand why it’s so important to both major parties. The rising prices of milk, bread, eggs, gas, housing, etc., independents place much higher on their list of issues than abortion.


    Like many other issues, unless abortion affects them personally, most swing voters, independents don’t pay much attention to it. If abortion is such a hot issue with you, I don’t see how you can say the Republican Party is irrelevant as they’re the ones trying to put a stop to it. The GOP is very relevant when it comes to abortion. Only they’re on the other side of this issue than you. Also, election wise or when it comes to elections, the Republican Party is very relevant there also. As they’re the only viable alternative to the Democratic Party and its candidates.
     
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    Guess you forgot Republicans retook the House.
     
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    Where did I say “only” and how am I suppose to edit someone else’s post?
     
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    You chose to use yourself as an example, not me. If you want to walk that back now then that has nothing to do with me.

    I didn't say you advocated for death, I quoted you saying that you didn't care that LGBTI people had been murdered and that you were upset that the murders would give them more attention. At no point have I stated or implied that you said anything else. I have simply made a reasonable interpretation of that statement. I have also made clear my own disgust at your indifference that you seem more upset by people being transgender than by someone killing them. Lack of empathy is a well known sign of mental illness.
     
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