Hawaii judge puts Trump's travel ban on hold

but this is more than "I told you so", which of course it is.

The entire legitimacy of the left, which is already teetering on the brink of meaningless, will be shattered for a generation.

Trump is crazy like a fox and cunning.
He knows what he is doing at all times, his business savvy and success has been built on thinking three or four moves ahead.
We are witnessing a master of his craft dealing with children. And they are taking every bait he dangles out there.
It's beautiful to watch

 

bullcrap.

The Presidents job is to defend the American people.

This isn't a muslim ban, and only a left handed moron would claim such.

The ban only covers countries with no functioning government as a partner to vet, visa applications.

This judge has exceeded his authority based on his moronic political ideology.

 

The judge is a political clown, and should be thrown off the bench, tarred and feathered, then run outta town.

 

Hawaii judge is overstepping his bounds. I don't believe Trump wanted to lose time fighting the first EO, and figured rewriting it would be quicker...but now it's time to put down the opposition.

Clearly Trump can do what he wants to do.

http://time.com/4656940/donald-trump-immigration-order-1952/


He should now spend the time to remind the bench of his authority, and make sure people know where the blame belongs if something happens during the delay created by these rogue judges.

 

I have no idea if the Judge asked those questions. Those are a small part of the list of harms alleged by the State. The State, at this portion of the proceeding, would only need to demonstrate a fungible harm and a likelihood that they would succeed.

 

When you support something that hampers the president from keeping Americans safe on the basis of your political hatred toward said president, which you, and the judges are doing.
And IF Americans die as a result of this, you own that blood by extension, it is on your hands
and your written denials aside, will be on your conscience.
the thing about conscience you see, in case you have never had to visit such a scenario is it keeps you up at night. The broadcast images of the aftermath will be partly on you.

You can't write that away in a forum post.
And certainly the political ramifications can not, and will not be written away.
You make your choices, and then...
you live with them, that's life.. what are you , like 12 years old that you don't know that?

 

Today I learned that Donald Trump is a left handed moron.

 

no, today you learned how to spin reality into falsehoods

 

No. I am not 12 years old. I am a person who will choose to not live in fear, to cause a great deal of suffering to innocent people, and to not violate the US Constitution simply because of some potential threat.

It is a false narrative to claim that I have to choose between this muslim ban and a world on fire.

**** that weak logic.

 

That's not a video of Donald Trump calling for Muslim Ban?

 

That's not a video of the executive order.

The judge is a left handed clown, who makes idiotic anti-American decisions based on youtube videos of a campaign rally instead of the actual executive order.

 

The intent of a law IS relevant to the evaluation of the law and whether it has a discriminatory purpose.

A review of the historical background here makes plain why the Government wishes to focus on the Executive Order’s text, rather than its context. The record before this Court is unique. It includes significant and unrebutted evidence of religious animus driving the promulgation of the Executive Order and its related predecessor. For example— (here they cite a Trump quote about the West being at war with Islam, that we shouldn't let these people in)

The Government appropriately cautions that, in determining purpose, courts should not look into the “veiled psyche” and “secret motives” of government decisionmakers and may not undertake a “judicial psychoanalysis of a drafter’s heart of hearts.” The Government need not fear. The remarkable facts at issue here require no such impermissible inquiry. For instance, there is nothing “veiled” about this press release: “Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.” [...] Nor is there anything “secret” about the Executive’s motive specific to the issuance of the Executive Order (here they cite Giuliani's statement about Trump asking him to do a Muslim ban "legally")

 

The serious Left now knows that the DP and Clinton represent only the Wall Street and the corporate elites.

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It's in the law. Liberal judges often overstep their jurisprudence mandate and go outside the constitution.

 

if it makes you feel better to call it a Muslim ban, but you know it is not.
why for the life of me the left refuses to admit there are some really bad characters trying to get in this country to do harm is baffling. And that it is nearly if not all together impossible to properly vet individuals running out of the chaos that is these middle eastern hot spots...History should teach us, not divide us
like I said, sleep tight

 

Of course there are bad folks trying to get into the country. A ban on all the travel from six countries - when there are zero reported cases of someone from one of those countries who has killed an American on American soil - is just an absolutely terrible method of stopping those bad dudes.

 

Read the Judge's ruling before you reach the conclusion that he is just a liberal judge overstepping his jurisprudence.

 

Why? When we have constitutional tools with which to keep an out of control judiciary, in check? If our problem is a spineless congress who stands by and says "thank you" when an unelected judge takes a whiz all over their legislative product maybe we should deal with that.

Why must Trump do everything while Congress does nothing?

 

You read it. The "judge" is a blithering idiot. He rarely even cites the EO, citing instead the thought and speech crimes of Trump during the campaign. And he even holds out hope, that should Trump conduct himself in a manner more pleasing to the judge, why, this very same EO might suddenly pass muster!

Congress has stood by and done NOTHING, while unelected judges piss all over the product of the constutional process of the people's representatives.

Appellate Courts are the product of Congress and subject to their regulation. If Congress will not defend their constitutional power to make and produce legislation and defend it against unelected judges, then we need to hold Congress accountable for this inaction.

 

The intent of the law is relevant when deciding whether a law has a discriminatory purpose. A relevant quote from the ruling:

The Government appropriately cautions that, in determining purpose, courts should not look into the “veiled psyche” and “secret motives” of government decisionmakers and may not undertake a “judicial psychoanalysis of a drafter’s heart of hearts.” The Government need not fear. The remarkable facts at issue here require no such impermissible inquiry. For instance, there is nothing “veiled” about this press release: “Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.” [...] Nor is there anything “secret” about the Executive’s motive specific to the issuance of the Executive Order (here they cite Giuliani's statement about Trump asking him to do a Muslim ban "legally")

 

Why? First, it's Congress who has authority over the Appellate Courts and why must Trump do everything while Congress stands on the side and mumbles with a concerned look on their faces?

 

Exactly. The Judge is not evaluating the EO, he is indicting the Trump campaign for thought and speech crimes committed during the campaign.

Apparently is President Clinton issued this exact same EO, it would be constititional, however, it exceeds the President's authority, because the Judge didn't like Trump's campaign?

This Judge is a shining example of what a pile of shambles our judiciary has become and why Congress has a duty to exercise their Constitutional authority over them.

 

You really do not seem to grasp the need to evaluate the intent, specifically whether there is a discriminatory intent, behind a law.

 

We've seen it many times. This is nothing more than a textbook, tried-and-true radical Leftist tactic. When all else fails them in the pursuit of their internationalist, America-hating agenda, they rely on illegal, obstructionist pronouncements from their in-place, hyperliberal judiciary to overturn legitimate rule by American citizens based on Constitutional LAW!

Any, and every judge who deliberately takes actions such as these should be impeached, removed, and in some cases, charged with crimes of conspiracy to subvert and sabotage the law itself!

 

It was part of the judge's rationale for blocking Trump's order whether the judge
originally alleged that or not and it demonstrates the level of so called thinking on which that judge operates (with regards to this
issue anyway).

The president has constitutional authority to limit immigration....he can open the immigration floodgates or shut them down. Period.
The Constitution of the United States gives him that authority and no partisan lower level judge can deny that, though he improperly did.

This ban is (was) a temporary one and applied only to six Middle Eastern states that were found to be particularly problematic with regards to terrorism. Given these facts a 43 page ruling is impressive but only in so much as it can fill up so many pages with error riddled
"leftist" reasoning.