Health expert Zeke Emanuel says 250,000 Americans could die of COVID by end of year

Why do you think it's a bad cold?

ChiFlu: Essentially a bad flu

 

Health expert Zeke Emanuel says 250,000 Americans could die of COVID by end of year

What does Zeke say will be the cause of death for the other 2,750,000 Americans that will die this year?

 

sad how Trump handled this crisis

 

some Trump supporters are testing this virus, having covid parties where when someone finds out they are sick, they invite all their friends to a party to see how fast they can give it to others... what could go wrong.... sad

 

Are you sure? Because there are countless doctors and state health directors that completely disagree on the true number of COVID19 deaths.

IDPH Director Dr. Ezike explains how Covid deaths are classified.
"If you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means technically even if you died of a clear alternate cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it's still listed as a COVID death. So, everyone who's listed as a COVID death doesn't mean that that was the cause of the death, but they had COVID at the time of the death." Dr. Ezike outlined.

Physicians Say Hospitals Are Pressuring ER Docs to List COVID-19 on Death Certificates. Here’s Why
The economic incentive to add COVID-19 to diagnostic lists and death certificates is clear and does not require any conspiracy.
Wednesday, April 29, 2020


Dr. Scott Jensen, a Minnesota family physician who is also a Republican state senator, told "The Ingraham Angle" Wednesday that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) guidelines for doctors to certify whether a patient has died of coronavirus are "ridiculous" and could be misleading the public.

Jensen then told Ingraham that under the CDC guidelines, a patient who died after being hit by a bus and tested positive for coronavirus would be listed as having presumed to have died from the virus regardless of whatever damage was caused by the bus.

"Apparently, doctors and nurses around the world are wondering why no one is dying from heart attacks or strokes any more, Owens tweeted April 6. "Flu and pneumonia deaths also went off a cliff. Turns out everyone is only dying of coronavirus now. Gee, I wonder why."

CORONAVIRUS
Published April 7
Birx says government is classifying all deaths of patients with coronavirus as 'COVID-19' deaths, regardless of cause
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I bet George Floyd’s death certificate will state COVID19 as cause of death.
Autopsy shows George Floyd had COVID-19, meth & fentanyl in his system
George Floyd had COVID-19, according to a Hennepin County autopsy report.
Wednesday, June 3rd 2020, 9:10 PM EDT
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Wednesday, June 3rd 2020, 11:31 PM EDT


It’s going to be funny as hell when the 2020 stats for causes of death are published and we see that heart attacks and strokes had a mysterious 50% decline.

 

Are you trying to be intentionally dense? I asked you specifically why you call it "essentially a bad flu?"

 

Are you? You asked me specifically about colds, which you apparently think the ChiFlu is - why do you think that?

 

Doesn't sound like it.

Results
Table). The 5 states with the most COVID-19 deaths experienced large proportional increases in deaths from nonrespiratory underlying causes, including diabetes (96%), heart diseases (89%), Alzheimer disease (64%), and cerebrovascular diseases (35%) (Figure). New York City experienced the largest increases in nonrespiratory deaths, notably from heart disease (398%) and diabetes (356%).

These estimates suggest that the number of COVID-19 deaths reported in the first weeks of the pandemic captured only two-thirds of excess deaths in the US. Potential explanations include delayed reporting of COVID-19 deaths and misattribution of COVID-19 deaths to other respiratory illnesses (eg, pneumonia) or to nonrespiratory causes reflecting complications of COVID-19 (eg, coagulopathy, myocarditis). Few excess deaths involved pneumonia or influenza as underlying causes.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2768086

 

These stats come from, among others, Fox News and if you want to accuse Fox News of 'pencil whipping stats' you may do that, but the stats are factual. If anyone wants to dispute these facts, write to Sean Hannity.

US has 4% of the world’s population, but more than 25% of global coronavirus cases
https://www.fox5ny.com/news/us-has-...-but-more-than-25-of-global-coronavirus-cases

 

Wow, JAMA (Journal of American Medical Association) is very reputable. Then by their numbers we should exceed well over 3 million total deaths in the US this year. However I did find this insert in the link.
...Mortality rates for causes other than COVID-19 were available only for underlying causes. Death data with any mention of COVID-19 on the death certificate (as an underlying or contributing cause) were used to capture all deaths attributed to the virus. Population counts for calculating mortality rates were obtained from the US Census Bureau.3,4

 

Show some intellectual curiosity. Search out your own sources.

The United States has suffered at least 66,000 more deaths than expected this year, a toll that includes the devastation directly caused by the coronavirus pandemic and a sharp rise in fatalities not attributed to the virus, the government reported late Wednesday.


The new report from the National Center for Health Statistics shows 33,756 covid-19 deaths and 32,325 from all other causes since Jan. 1. Other causes include heart attacks, accidents, overdoses, cancer and a wide variety of other fatal diseases. It also could include people who died of covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus, at home but whose deaths were incorrectly attributed to another cause.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...833548-8a68-11ea-ac8a-fe9b8088e101_story.html

 

I did find this little bit of interesting information in the link you provided. So when deaths were below the weekly average those negative numbers were not counted.

• Negative values, where the observed count fell below the threshold, were set to zero.
• Percent excess: The percent excess was defined as the number of excess deaths divided by the threshold.
• Total number of excess deaths:The total number of excess deaths in each jurisdiction was calculated by summing the excess deaths in each week, from February 1, 2020 to present. Similarly, the total number of excess deaths for the US overall was computed as a sum of jurisdiction-specific numbers of excess deaths (with negative values set to zero), and not directly estimated using the Farrington surveillance algorithms.
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  So that’s like going to a casino and only counting your winning hands. Hey, I won $2k at the casino on slots last week, but I’m not going to tell you that I lost $5k at the sports book.

 

It's true that hospitals get reimbursed more for treating COVID patients due to the CARES act. However, hospitals don't make their money from ICU stays which is why the are losing tons of money.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/26/hospitals-are-busier-than-ever-and-going-out-of-business/
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...lion-in-revenue-by-the-end-of-june-2020-06-11
https://www.aha.org/system/files/media/file/2020/05/aha-covid19-financial-impact-0520-FINAL.pdf

 

They've all been censored by the only place you seem to go for "facts", the mainstream media. Of course you haven't become aware of dissenters and whistleblowers.

 

You can rationalize as you need to SM. If that makes you happy, it makes me happy.

CARES is a totally awesome way for certain rich to become richer, to enable friends of Donald and friends of Nancy to plunder the treasury. Mission accomplished.

 

No, we're touch tender spots. That's why so many defend the official narrative. They do not want to have to face the fact that their government has deceived them.

Despite the Pentagon Papers, the Afghanistan Papers, Collateral Murder and so much more, the average American very much needs to believe that his government has his own best interests at heart. It's nothing new under the sun.

 

Did they die years before they could have been expected to die?

 

Even at the scaremongering death toll of 250,000, that would only be .1% of the population. One tenth of 1%.

.1% fatality represents a disease that's not even almost as bad the "cure" that is the economic devastation of shutdown/lockdown.

The sacremongers are going to end up doing more damage to the American population than COVID.

 

Well, even though the cause of death can be obscured on death certificates the age can’t. We’ll just have to wait for the 2020 stats for average age of death. Now, what’s weird is that the U.S. average age of death declined last year (pre-covid) for the first time in history. It’s right around 78.63 years of age.

 

The CDC advises that officials should report deaths in which the patient tested positive for COVID-19 — or, if a test isn’t available, “if the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty.” It further indicates that if a “definitive diagnosis cannot be made … but it is suspected or likely … it is acceptable to report COVID-19 on a death certificate as ‘probable’ or ‘presumed.'”

What you also have to remember is the number of people who die without getting tested due to supply shortage.

Likewise, Marc Lipsitch, a professor of epidemiology at Harvard University, told us in an email: “There are going to be some people who die of something else, happen to have COVID and get tested, and get counted as COVID deaths but would die anyway. It would be wrong to say that number is zero. However given current testing shortages and protocols, the number of such cases will be small.”

“A greater issue is errors in the other direction — deaths caused by COVID that are not counted as such,” he said.

Lipsitch cited at least two reasons for that underreporting: Someone having and dying from clear COVID-19 respiratory symptoms but never being tested (especially early in the epidemic, when tests were scarce). Or, he said, someone dying from causes, such as a heart attack or stroke, triggered by the infection — with no one ever suspecting or testing for the disease.

“So overall it seems likely that while a few individuals who would have died anyway are getting called COVID deaths, there are [many] more deaths caused by COVID that are not being attributed to COVID,” Lipsitch said.

 

I just talked to an old friend today who is the chief lifeguard for this county. He works closely with other medics and ambulance crews.

He said they said that pretty much all runs are now reported as Covid, test or no test, no matter the medical history of any individual.

This crisis was brought by mainstream media and bureaucratic interests.

 

Here's my piece of advice - Do not rely upon youtube to explain a conspiracy theory.

 

Neither is defending your guy by lying..

 

Trump supporters, come on lefties had a huge rioting/looting block party for over 2 weeks. Yes some college kids have had Covid parties, now go check which political party most college kids identify with. Your partisanship is beyond ridiculous.

 

There are two really fundamental flaws with your logic.

1) The 250,000 dead is not the result after 100% of the population has been exposed to the virus. If the virus kills 0.1% of those infected (and let's be clear, the current mortality rate of the virus in the US is estimated to be 40x higher), then 325,000 will be dead.

2) For every one person that dies from this virus, 19 will require hospitalization. Of those, 18 will have permanent heart damage and 10 will have permanent lung damage. Three will have strokes and two will have neurological damage leading to things like chronic weakness, loss of coordination, or cognitive function.

So your "only" 0.1% of the population suddenly becomes 6,235,000 hospitalized...
5,907,000 with permanent heart damage....
3,820,000 with permanent lung damage,
985,000 strokes and
656,000 with neurological damage