Health expert Zeke Emanuel says 250,000 Americans could die of COVID by end of year

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  1. MrTLegal

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    A) He said "some" and that is objectively correct
    B) It is a poor refutation to say that most college kids are democrats and thus it is impossible that these college kids do not support trump.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Here's my advice to you counselor--ALWAYS believe every word uttered on MSM, keeping in mind that your government will never deceive you. It always has your best interests at heart.
     
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    ~ There are likely that many deaths already. Everyone knows somebody who died or has a family member succumb to the China Curse. It's just a matter of time before we are next. If we survive we will live a few years more until the Co2 disaster kills us.
    :heart::hug: "Live, love and laugh - for tomorrow we may die... " :angel:
     
  4. truth and justice

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    Or we have this mother who decided to let her high risk 17 year old daughter attend a Church "Covid" party who then died even after following Trump's advice
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/07/florida-carsyn-davis-coronavirus/
     
  5. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Still not worth tanking the economy over.
     
  6. MrTLegal

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    You realize that "MSM" includes the statements from thousands of people, including those who downplay the threat of the virus like Rush Limbaugh and Laura Lingraham, right?
     
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    If you want to improve the economy, then crush the virus first.

    If this virus kills even 1% of the economy, then 3 million people disappearing from the economy will tank the economy no matter what you do.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Rush is MSM?

    Egads counselor, you're at your wit's end! :roll:
     
  9. Creasy Tvedt

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    Please tell that to the leftist riot mobs.
     
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    Yes. The man has one of the largest listening and viewing audiences of any media member in the country. That is the definition of "main stream."
     
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    The leftists aren't the ones who are currently refusing to wear masks because of "Trump 2020."
     
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    They are the ones who are refusing to quarantine and social distance, and they insist upon gathering in large, tightly-packed groups though, right?

    They're also destroying and looting, which does the opposite of help the economy, right?
     
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    Rush may be popular in some circles, but he is not mainstream.

    Mainstream is CBS, NBC, Fox, ABC and the like. Goodness, you ARE at your wit's end.
     
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    Rush Limbaugh gets quoted and viewed on those media sources explicitly because he is also mainstream.
     
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    The groups you want to focus upon, i.e. the groups which are destroying and looting, are not the population which is amenable to conversations about recognizing the value of the economy. You are not going to convince them to stop their actions because the threat of the virus is significant and severe because they already flaunt the even more immediate risk of being arrested and charged with a felony when they destroy/loot.

    On the other hand, the people who think we need to open up the economy because the virus is not a significant threat - those are the people that need to be convinced that the virus very much is a severe threat.
     
  16. Creasy Tvedt

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    I agree with you, the radical left is beyond the reach of reason and logic, and that's what makes them so dangerous and destructive.

    The Democrats really need to stop pandering to those dangerous lunatics.
     
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    I've been watching the big 3 for many years, and I cannot recall EVER having seen Rush on those broadcasts. You are deeply in denial.
     
  18. MrTLegal

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    No democrat is pandering to the groups that are rioting or looting.

    And I am not currently talking to a leftwing radical, am I? I am talking to you because you are the one telling everyone here that a virus which kills 0.1% of the population isn't worth restricting the economy.
     
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    No, I am just using the actual definition of "mainstream" instead of some ham-fisted and manipulated version that is supposed to act as a substitute for "espouses facts and opinions with which I disagree."

    The man has one of the largest audiences. That makes him "mainstream."
     
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    Only in your fragile mind.
     
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    Nonsense.

    Democrats are refusing to stop the rioting and looting, and they're refusing to prosecute they rioters and looters. They're just letting them go to riot and loot more.

    Democrats are doing worse than just pandering, they're basically complicit with the rioting and looting.

    References available upon request.
    No, you're talking to a rational conservative who is telling everyone that the Democrat's economy-crushing lockdown cure is worse than the COVID disease, because it is.
     
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    You and I both know that is blatantly false.

    Right now, the economies which are being furthered shuttered are doing so because of the virus - regardless of the political affiliation. Republic Governors in Florida, Texas, and Arizona are all shuttering or staggering the economy because the risk to the economy comes from the virus.
     
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    It is actually blatantly true.
    Plenty more references available upon request.
    And the shutdown cures will be worse than the COVID disease.
     
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    I see your logic but shouldn't we really care about how many dies from Covid vs the population and how many get infected vs the population. At the end of the day those are the totals that tell the tale on how contagious and deadly it really is to the public. The way you're estimating is dropping like a rock compared to 2 months ago because we're in the middle of building the data set, no where close to a solid %.

    Throwing facts out like how many will have permanent heart damage and lung damage is extremely premature at this point and the data is flawed at best right now.
     
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    Ok then I will state most covid parties are made up of democrats and that would be objectively correct as well based on Fresh's logic. You have zero idea who these kids would vote for but if we were to look at who the MSM told us they support, it would Bernie which tells us they lean left. Bottom line you don't know and Fresh certainly doesn't know, so any finger pointing is partisanship like I said.
     
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