Heavily armed Antifa militants 'stand guard' outside Texas 'kid friendly' drag show

It would be quite long…

 

A strip show requires women/men to remove their clothes. By definition.

A Drag show only necessitates the performance of masculinity or femininity by a person of the opposite sex. This is not inherently sexual and has been an acceptable form of entertainment for literal centuries.

 

Antifa was the groomers protection goons for their activities

 

I can't tell if you're serious...

 

Literally lol'd.

 

'I bite fascists':

 

Cross dressing: Drag is literally defined as a form of "adult entertainment" by the DRAG PERFORMERS SPEAKING IN THEIR OWN WORDS in the link I gave you which began this exchange.
ADULT entertainment is for ADULTS, not minor children.

Erotic dancing: In this case stripping and pole dancing intended to arouse the prurient interest. Cheerleaders MIGHT be said to be performing an athletic display and do not appear in states of undress nor invite small children to tip them by inserting paper currency into their underwear. Though I don't really hold with cheerleading or child pageants for that matter. Are they harmed? Yes.

Being paid: Please do not misquote what I've said to make a strawman you'd prefer to argue against. My quote was not being paid. It was "being paid for erotic activities". (emphasized so you'll have no trouble reading it this time). Being paid to erotically dance, being paid for arousing the prurient interest, is an adults only activity and certainly sexually oriented.

Exhibitionism: They're performing a strip tease whether or not they pull their genitals free of the fabric. Come off it. Erotic dancing being the behavior that's used to grab attention: There is certainly something inherently sexual in what I'm criticizing.

The Venue: Even you admitted the venue was inappropriate, please don't try to walk it back now. The venue is not simply a bar, its a bar oriented toward erotic displays. Erotic and children do not mix, that's very very very illegal.

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I simply pointed out that erotic dancing and trying to expose minor children to adult content (like cross dressing) is very much grooming. As the drag performer mentioned, drag covers all physical sexes and pretending to be various genders (they named 5 types, were you paying enough attention to name them all like the children were made to? Let's see) so I don't see how one could logically say that my claim was "gays are groomers and pedophiles". To be clear: The drag performer LITERALLY said there were men dressing up like ladies who still were straight, women doing the opposite who were still straight, and both sexes swapping who were homosexual, AND ANOTHER ONE. So its got nothing to do intrinsically with homosexuality, logically speaking. I made no claim that homosexuals are pedophiles or groomers and you may quote me otherwise or stop putting words in my mouth.

Its odd that you went right there though. One might almost call it a projection or Freudian slip.

 

You see no difference between a 5 second bit in a cartoon that had to pass the hays code, and watching and joining in to an erotic display where during and at the end people insert money into your underwear?

 

But not to a state of nudity. That's not per se required. And again: Erotic dancing is not a child appropriate activity.

Tell that to the drag performer who LITERALLY called it "adult entertainment".

 

I’m realizing now how little I want to argue against a wall of text here. Let’s go step by step. Presumably you could convince me that each of these elements are inherently sexual.

So, cross dressing. Are you familiar with pantomime? It features performers known as panto dames, which are men dressed as women. This form of theater originated for children, though many adults enjoy it as well. Is this sexual? If not, does that mean that cross dressing isn’t inherently sexual?

 

All I said is that children have been and will always be exposed to innuendo. They’re fine.

 

Why do I care about one performer’s assessment of the entire art form?

 

You give me a wall of text of your own, you want to break it down individually, you misquote me and create a silly little strawman, I break it down for you barney style, and you complain rather than respond. Quitting the field so early?

Why yes, I sure can do that. See post 182 requoted here for your convenience.

 

And is the innuendo in a 15 second bit in a looney toon that passed the hays code, comparable to erotic dancing in person where physically placed underwear tips are encouraged and in fact demanded?

Note: The hays code was a very restrictive industry requirement for motion pictures requiring various things including that bad guys not go unpunished and that racy scenes be strictly pan down and out without ever getting anywhere. They're the reason for the separate beds in I Love Lucy or Leave it to Beaver.

 

You cannot take an expert at their word on their own art form they were asked by various authorities to educate small children about?

 

No, I just realized I didn’t want to keep repeating that effort. I post from a mobile phone. I’m not up for typing novels.

The supposed misquote was just attempting to be brief in stating the topic of each bullet. The idea that I would misquote you suggests I’m afraid of your words. Which I’m not.

 

You keep saying erotic dancing. We haven’t gotten there yet. I’ll break down your points in the order you presented them. When you’re ready, of course.

 

You’re making an appeal to authority.

 

no he did not, he wrote a book try to say if he did it, this is the way he would of done it

juries get it wrong sometimes, I think we can both agree there

 

we do not know what really happened and never will

 

This is a typical pantomime Dame.
Supposedly a man dressed as a woman.



Erotic? Sexual?

Probably the greatest ever writer of the English language, William Shakespeare, used the gender switching trope to powerful effect.
The existence of guns in America is more of a threat to children than the existence of Drag performers.
There is an argument to be made that Drag performers benefit society in as much as they essentially question stereotypical gender identity.
I saw a re run of the Eiger Sanction recently starring the all American hero Clint Eastwood, and the casual sexualisation and oppression of women portrayed in that film is more damaging to the young than the existence of drag acts.

 

So they can be misled. When certain bizarre practices, kinky practices, however it might be described, are glorified to children, those doing the glorifying have done harm.

 

Do you think that your use of bizarre and kinky are subjective? Like most forms of entertainment, kids can handle a lot with parental guidance.

Is all Drag appropriate for children? Absolutely not. Is some? Yeah!

 

I suspect the truth is that like religion, the Drag Culture needs to be placed into the mind of children in order for that culture to survive.

I do remember as a youngster enjoying putting on finger nail polish and my mother's high heels, but it didn't last long. My parents were silent on it, and it soon passed.

 

It really doesn’t. It is where it is now without even a modicum of external support. Quite the opposite in fact.

The goal today is to spread acceptance and understanding. Life for many LGBTQ was, and still is, difficult. I see it as quite noble to work towards a better life for future generations.