Heidi Cruz Says Ted Will ‘Show This Country The Face Of The God That We Serve’

Jesus never preached for the needs of the community to be paid for by confiscatory tax policies enacted under the Roman empire. That's a left-wing Democrat sort of thing, which is why I laugh whenever this Jesus meme is thrown out.

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Godwin's Law is rarely a convincing argument. Your use of it is no exception.

 

ROFL classic. I often talk about the method that Islam uses to brainwash its adherents .. getting folks to kill in the name of God.

The reason why we can not openly discuss this (in the media and so on), is that the mechanism for control is no different (at least in the first few stages) than in Christianity.

I think you may have seen the full diatribe before so I won't get into detail but, it starts with convincing the adherent (often a young child) that if they "Question" or "Don't Believe" or "Don't have faith" in the tenets of some holy book -
The worst thing the mind can imagine will happen to them.

Now just torture for a day or two ... Eternal torture, for ever and ever and ever .....

Those who inject this ideology are psychologically impacted, right through the subconscious. When they encounter things that conflict with religious dogma a fear mechanism is triggered and the adherent will develop numerous ways to make the bad thoughts go away. Denial, clinging to the most irrational of arguments, Anger and so on.

One of the more common is demonization of the "other" ... the bad person (obviously under the influence of Satan) who is questioning or contradicting cult doctrine.

As I said I have trotted out the next steps in the "killing in the name of God" process previously. The reason why we can not discuss these things is because most of these steps exist in Christianity.

 

What part of "he never cared about it one way or the other" did you miss?

He also wasn't a small-government anti-immigrant conservative.

But answer the final question: Are you arguing that Jesus *would* have done those things? Built a border wall? Massive tax cuts for the wealthy? That sort of thing? Those sound Jesus-like to you?

 

You know, you start getting angry and shouting when you are loosing.

The old, you must conform with our beliefs in a magical being or be shunned by your neighbors, is dying. Those who are Christian are desperately trying to force that societal pressure to conform or "face consequences"... Because deep down they know that if that is lost, then nobody will believe their myths and fairy tales as being real. They know that if someone started a church repeating the ancient Greek Gods, or the ancient Roman Gods, they would not have any supporters. Because once the societal pressure is gone, logic and reasoning says that the religious stories are fables.

There is much truth to the statement:

"We're all athiests, I just believe in one God less"

One day, maybe 1000 years in the future, mankind will look at the bible and all those crosses and think they are historically relevant like we look at ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs and statues of dog headed/ human torso Gods.

 

He did say to the rich man:

"If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven."

and

"How hard it is for the rich to enter the Kingdom of God / Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Kind of seems to me that Jesus was preaching that helping the poor was a good thing, and being a greedy selfish bastard wasn't. Not sure what politics you listen to, but I never heard the story of Jesus passing the begger on the street and saying "Get a job", or "your a lazy moocher" as he passed them by with a bag of Gold in his hand.

 

Or it could be seen as a "you cant take it with you" kind of statement.

 

My example wasn't "Godwin's Law"....I wasn't the one who compared current Rightwing Islamophobia to Nazism...

the rightwing Islamophobe I "pulled the trick on" did.

I simply gave him a quote...substituted "Muslim" for "Jew", "Islam" for "Judaism"....and asked him if he agreed with it.

If he HADN'T agreed with it....then it wouldn't have indicated anything about the guy or inidicated he disagreed with religious bigotry.

But he DID agree with it......by the way, when I TOLD him it was Hitler talking about Jews....he said-

"So? Who's to say he wasn't right?" Again, HE SAID IT...he outed himself as a Nazi sympathizer. I didn't "accuse" him or "force him to say it."

Try again, Brewskier. I'd suggest you try a subject change now that I've "played a trick" on you.

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If Bernie Sanders said "I don't think the rich get into Heaven"....it'd be an outrage and the screams from the Right would be deafening.

 

Which is why I find it funny that big Government left-wing progressives like to argue that Jesus was one of them.

Probably not. I'd be surprised if he had any opinion on these things. I highly doubt he'd support abortion and gay marriage, though.

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I don't see him advocating for a bigger Government to enact confiscatory tax policies in order to benefit groups who vote the right way. That's really more of a left-wing Democrat sort of thing.

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You know, I remember you trying that "trick" many times and it never worked. Perhaps you're imagining a successful attempt on your part, that never really happened?

But yes, Gorn, it's Godwin's Law because you're comparing something not related to Hitler, to Hitler, as an attempt to shut down legitimate discussion on the topic. I don't think it could be a clearer definition of Godwin's Law, actually. I understand how disappointed you are with that being pointed out, but that's not my problem.

 

Forensic archeology indicates that THIS....not the blonde, blue-eyed Norwegian-looking Jesus we normally see.....was likely Jesus' real appearance-




If he showed up at a Trump rally, they'd probably call the FBI or the Border Patrol.

 

No way to know as you seem to want to put random words in quotations and then expect them to defend it.... We have been through this.. Not interested.

 

The ONLY words I changed...were the religion and the adherents to that religion. That was it.

The rest was Der Furhrer's.

Here....how about this-

"This is Jewification going global. They are using local Jews the world over to demand Jewish Law adherence by corporations and by the market place."

"The historic responsibility of world Islam for the outbreak and widening of this war has been proven so clearly that it does not need to be talked about any further. The Muslims wanted war, and now they have it."

OR ...is it...


"This is Sharia going global. They are using local Muslims the world over to demand Sharia Law adherence by corporations and by the market place."

"The historic responsibility of world Jewry for the outbreak and widening of this war has been proven so clearly that it does not need to be talked about any further. The Jews wanted war, and now they have it."


Which are the real quotes...and from whom....and which are altered quotes...and from whom?

 

I wish they would focus on what this country needs, rather than bringing religion into the matter.

 

If Bernie Sanders said THE EXACT SAME THING that Jesus said about the rich getting into Heaven....

what would you say in response???

 

Yep, Godwin's law. You already established this in a previous post. Why repeat yourself?

 

Well, what you are citing is a ingenious way of insider trading through legal entities called corporations. That is why no CEO has been charged because it cannot be determined if the direction came directly from the CEO on his own merit, or through the legal process called the board of directors which the company took action. However, because of the complexity within the shadow banking system that created financial vehicles to maximize profit and minimize risk, this is one reason why the financial markets melted when the housing and commercial real estate markets collapsed.

the other problem is that the "Fed Heads" did not have the statutory requirement to regulate many of the vehicles that were causing the financial meltdown or did not have the personnel to do the job correctly. The other problem is that many of the SEC filings, such as the 13-F filings for hedge fund companies, are too brief to adequately analyze the financial performance of the company in real time and it would be too burdensome, and too impractical, to provide detailed financial information every quarter.

And this has been the problem with our economy for over two decades. One or two sectors of the economy carry all other sectors in the economy with one side wanting to ignore 20% of the consumption done to stabilize the economy. Neither the Dems nor the GOP knows how "to manage" the economy because it is all based on ideology first, not practicality.

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You do realize that the raging masses have become the Roman mob, right?

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No, a wannabe David Koresh or Jim Jones.

 

The Cruz's believe that the United States NEEDS religion and that would solve all issues if everybody thought liked them. This is typical in the evangelical world and why wealth gospels are so popular in evangelical sermons.

 

Not much as you cant take it with you...

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I think most people that run for President think they have all the answers. I dont see how this is any different.

 

So Mrs Cruz is going to show us the face of Goldman Sachs?

 

Why is that Godwin's Law when I made ZERO mention of Nazis???

I simply asked about the quotes and who you thought they were from....and which ones were real and which ones were altered?

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So, in honesty, you'd have the same "He probably just means you can't take it with you" attitude if Bernie Sanders said that, instead of Jesus????

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Ted Cruz sleeps with his personal banker.


Besides Trump being the Nominee and talking about Bill Clinton's infidelities....with his Mistress-turned-Wife Melania at his side....

imagine Cruz trying to go after Hillary for "ties to the Big Banks".....with Heidi "Goldman Sachs" Cruz at HIS side.

 

Yes....

10 Char.

 

I do not trust anyone who wears their religion on their sleeve. People who do that are either not too sure of their own commitment to their chosen religion and have a need to convince themselves. Another category are those who are phony baloney and/or think that they are holier than tough.

Bottom line is that people need to keep their religion to themselves and keep religion out of politics and out of government. That is not anti religious it is a matter of privacy and freedom.

I as every citizen of this country has the right to practice any religion they wish or not practice any at all if they so wish and no one has a right to ask me what my religion is or to try to force me to change my religion or to practice one if I choose not to.


LIVE AND LET LIVE

 

more fear mongering from the extreme right

 

Its not the right claiming anyone wants a Theocracy.... That would be the loons at politicsusa.

 

No country needs religion, religion is a personal thing and it should just be simply respected and be freely practiced. It should have no bearing in the decisions we make that affects all of our citizens. I respect that a person will pray to make the right decision, or turn to their beliefs to help better guide them if they feel it is necessary, but once they are called to make the decisions for the country, they need to think about the repercussions and good based off of how it will effect us.

Our government need not make decisions based solely off their religious beliefs.

 

well republicans and tea party are all claiming, we need to take our country back, morality is lost, the war on christmas and everything, is fear mongering