High school football coach scores big win at Supreme Court over post-game prayer

I don't really care about this incorrect decision one way or the other.... it won't impact me.

Can't wait until a Muslim coach pulls out a prayer rug after a basketball game though...

 

It was during the Obama years back when Moore had that poster that said today we are all Muslims.

 

That doesn't seem to explain why the lower courts couldn't see it.

 

Didn't the coach used to pray in the locker room until the school told him to stop doing it there?

 

That is strange, I don't recall this happening. I don't remember our kids having this day and I am sure tons of parents would be against it. It seems so strange to make kids dress as people of a certain religion. Did they do this with any other religions? It seems the stereotype alone could be quite traumatizing for kids of that religion. Many kids are mean and this would seem like a perfect vehicle for bullying.

 

Of course it didn't happen... everything in the Obama years gets rewritten during the MAGA years...

 

Freedom OF religion not freedom FROM religion.

 

God point. I am not sure what caused the lower courts to make that decision. They must have believed the school acted within the laws. Probably would have to examine the findings of the SCOTUS.

 

I know they did it in Philly and a few other cities. It came at a time when Obama was lauding Islam and AG Lynch was threatening to prosecute anyone who said something bad about them. At the time Muslims were getting a lot of bad press because of the acts of terror they were committing worldwide. Islamic terrorism was pretty high during the Obama years.

 

Buccaneers?

 

Bad decision by the court which apparently did not even consider the coercive power of the school official over the student/athlete. The coach here has ultimate authority over them being players on the team. Anyone who has ever played or has had children who solid know this.

There is no imperative need for this coach to make a specticle of his personal religious beliefs while he is acting in his capacity as a public school official with dominion over the children. He does so for a purpose and that is to encourage and put pressure on those over whom he has this power to participate in his religious ceremony and of course the fame and adulation brought to him by some of his fellow Chrisitians.

He of course is free to engage in his religious practice on his own time and his own dime. To use his position as a government official over students who are mandated to attend and most play on that team else not play at all violates the separation of church and state and cojoins that powered of government with religious faith and practice.

 

Why? You know what the MCOTUS is going to say.... Religion now cannot be separated from all things educational...

I'm pretty sure I remember the Constitution being expressly against that, but hey... that's what happens when you appoint zealots to what was previously the highest court in the land...

All of this stuff will have to be revisited in a better future...

 

We can get that better future by appointing three more conservative Justices to the Court. Make it a full house.

 

Yep

 

It is freedom from coercion by government officials.

 

It seems like a real bad idea and back to your original point people potentially should be fired over this idea. To be honest it does not seem like a progressive idea at all. I could understand if they had a day to teach and learn about the Muslim religion. To have kids try to dress like people of a religion seems basic. What do they learn from this and how does it honor the people of the religion? I am sure some will even say it is cultural appropriation. What is the point of dressing in stereotype garb? It would be like dressing up like a Hasidic Jew without learning about the religion.

 

I always wondered if they believed their god wanted the other team to lose. If their god takes sides why does one of my grandsons Catholic school team lose so much to non-religious schools?

It find the same with NASCAR when theybpray for their god to look after and keep the drivers safe. Does that mean if one crashes and gets injured the god was punishing him/her?

 

Opposing players were joining Coach Kennedy after the game. How were they coerced? How is it the school district never once mentioned coercion as one of its reasons for firing him?

 

That's up to him, long as he's not leading a prayer.

 

Yea, we know why YOU love this thread.

 

Bingo

 

Wait, so this person should have his rights of individual prayer taken away because other individuals violate his rights? That's nonsense. No one has the right to abridge another's faith on the basis of their feelings. As Gorsuch eloquently penned "It wasn't in pursuant of a government policy". So let us take Liberals down some history lessons:

The Framers didn't want an "establishment" of religion, which in 17th century terms, meant government force backing religion, or religion backing government force. It did not inference civilian sectarian rights/views and in fact, negates the WHOLE purpose of the United States were it the case(and as the 6-3 decision showed, the conservatives knew it wasn't the case.)

Here's the bottom line regarding the Establishment Clause: You can believe what you want, and yes you can even have public prayers in school(watch the SCOTUS tackle this one next.). The ONLY rule in Continental America was that the religion+ government(which isn't the same as some school teacher, another absurdity but I digress) couldn't be allowed, due to the political/religious dictatorship that would ensue.

 

Hm. Our kids were in school then. It didn’t happen on a wide scale. That's something we’d remember

 

What's hilarious is that the only people who will have a problem with it are your whiny ilk.

 

That's nature's way of thinning the herd and culling bad genes.