How about a logical reason

What list of names and addresses? Are you referring to the ones at the voting table where you check in? Would it be that list, which is upside down to the person checking in? So, you think a person walks up to the table and within half a second is able to scan the upside down list for a person of their gender and be able to see the upside down name and address and give that to the person at the table? You can't be serious

 

It's different in different jurisdictions. Here, it is done automatically through people's income tax returns.

 

How about a logical reason (for not having voter i.d.).

The same reason the second amendment can't even be discussed; i.e., reason has nothing to do with it.

 

So you're saying all voter ID cards are free? So the people who make the ID cards work for free? Is the material to make the ID cards somehow free?

 

It is infinitesimal NOW because there are security measures in place. Duh.

Why would you falsely claim that I am working myself up?

Because there are security measures in place. You seem to be unaware that the history of democracy has included incidents of such fraud.

Why couldn't it?

I don't get what you think you are on about.

 

Are ballots and voting machines free for the voter?

What on earth do you even erroneously imagine you think you might be talking about? Are you somehow unaware that democratic institutions do not just wash up on the beach?

 

Why couldn't it? Because you said there are security measures in place. So I guess we don't need voter ID afterall. Good chat.

 

No. Nothing is free. Not sure why you struggle with concept. I noticed you avoided answering my questions. Can't say I'm surprised.

 

Existing measures are reasonably effective. That doesn't mean better ones wouldn't be better. Hello?

 

You are factually incorrect. The voter does not have to pay for a ballot, or to use a voting machine.

Actually lots of things are free -- numbers, daylight, sea water, etc. -- but that is irrelevant.

You are the one struggling with the concept that taxpayers pay for the infrastructure of democracy so that voters don't have to.

That did not happen.

Can't say your false claims are a surprise to me.

 

No, no...you seemed pretty emphatic that voter fraud is infinitesimal because of current security measures. Remember how you added in the "Duh" part. Well, here...see below.

 

So who pays for the ballot and voting machines?

 

Never mind the fact the nominal charge for a state ID has never been held as a undue burden on the exercise of a right - I need that same ID to buy a gun, get married, get an abortion, buy alcohol...

 

Speak for yourself.

 

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That would do. Someone has it.

Why not? That is a simple technique that could be learned in a few hours. Card counters learn techniques of instant card reading and tabulation, misdirection, etc. that routinely fool casino dealers, so it would not be hard to fool a poll clerk with a little friendly banter while looking at the list.

 

Misdirection? THAT'S your answer? Hahahahaha...thank you for the laugh

The table worker immediately asks for name and address. Any stalling would look very suspicious. Especially if a person has to look down and spend anything more than half a second to respond to such a question

 

Who pays a lot more for the military that also secures our democracy?

 

Your innocence of the techniques of fraud is amusing, but does not constitute an argument.

 

And your point would be....?

 

Wait...hold on. Let me see if I understand this. I asked you the question below. And you answer with the above? Are you serious with that?

So let me try this again...Who pays for the ballots and voting machines?

 

But you already agreed voter fraud is infinitesimal. So there's that

 

The political fortunes of the left rest on the fact that taxpayers are a subset of voters.

 

Voter fraud is not currently the relevant problem. Low turnout and highly unequal barriers to voting based on economic factors are. I guess you were not clear on that.

 

No.

 

Hahahaha...so you went from voter ID to "Low turnout and highly unequal barriers to voting based on economic factors are". Yes, I was unclear about that since we hadn't been actually talking about that. Wow