How can anyone be against deporting criminal aliens

I'll pardon your hyperbole and flame baiting and point out that it would cost hundreds of billions and disrupt our entire economy to deport 11 million people.

But it's OK because Robert is going to foot that bill.

 

If we let illegals stay, the cost/s of having and keeping them here would be even greater.

 

We don't need to deport anyone - at least not initially. All we need do is invite them to leave. We do this by shutting off the magnet that draws them and keeps them here, thus making it very difficult for them to stay and very uncomfortable for those who remain. After a time, we can then go in an start deporting the stragglers - starting with violent felons like the one who murdered Kate Steinle, and working down the list. Any public official who refuses to cooperate with federal authorities (so called sanctuarians), should be charged with, at least, obstruction of justice, if not treason for the most egregious offenders like Eric Garcetti (my mayor), Ed Lee (SF mayor), Charlie Beck (my police chief), Ross Mirkarimi (the loser wife-beating hippie sheriff of SF County who let Kate Steinle's murderer go after refusing ICE's request to hold him), and buffoon and ringleader Jerry Brown (my governor) if he succeeds in turning my state into an illegal alien sanctuary.

 

Maybe you don't earn enough to pay your share. I dunno.

 

You sure post a lot of "we" about America considering you said you were from Canada.

Here's an idea...let's enforce the laws against HIRING illegals..

Oh wait..those are rich white people who contribute heavily to candidates who then demonize the workers.

Yea...let's not do that...it would actually WORK

 

Because it isn't true and it's been proven time and again. What he did is change the way we count them He added those caught right at the border. No other administration did that. The only counted those caught inside the interior.

High deportation figures are misleading - LA Times

www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-deportations-20140402-story.html


Apr 1, 2014 - Immigration activists have pressured President Obama to stop the ... number of deportations rests on statistics that conceal almost as much as they disclose. ... has gone up — primarily as a result of changing who gets counted in the ... are placed in deportation proceedings, actually removing them from the ...



Mexican government claims deportations are actually down under ...

www.theblaze.com/.../mexican-government-claims-deportations-are-actually-down-u...


Feb 13, 2017 - A very large percentage of illegal immigrants deported by Obama, particularly .... What he did was change the they counted statistics so that stops by ... Deport them or lock them up and if they are careless enough to drag their ...

 

Robert, let's not let this get personal. I wouldn't want you to whine to admin when I respond

 

Precisely.

 

Anyway you look at it...the Obama Administration deported 2.5 million illegals.

Considering the fact that there are 11 million illegals here...that's a substantial number

And the change you whine about occurred midway through the Bush Admin

 

Unfortunately the law with regard to employers is rarely enforced - by either side going beck to 1986 when it was signed into law by Ronald Reagan, but it does call for fines of up to $20,000+ per occurrence and up to six months in prison for the worst offenders. And it is a major component of what I call shutting off the magnet.

 

The change started with the Obama administration. If they were caught jumping over the fence, Obama had them counted. No other administration did that. Only the ones that made it into the interior. As a matter of fact, in Obama's last couple of years, he was having them bussed into the interior and let go.

https://www.google.com/search?sourc...+illegals+bussed+into+the+interior+and+let+go.

 

Detail those costs please

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That "magnet" is jobs and I agree...we need to enforce the laws against hiring illegals...consistently and harshly

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There's the problem and solution in a nutshell.

 

Not according to the LA Times link YOU posted earlier

Now, the vast majority of border crossers who are apprehended get fingerprinted and formally deported. The change began during the George W. Bush administration and accelerated under Obama. The policy stemmed in part from a desire to ensure that people who had crossed into the country illegally would have formal charges on their records.


I'll bet the fact that you are wrong doesn't mean a thing to you

 

Okay, let's be polite. And as uninvited guests, tell them kindly ... go away. Back to your own country. Seek asylum from them.

 

Right, punish those who actually give jobs and let off those who jumped the border. What a plan.

 

It's good that businesses give jobs but they should only give them to citizens. I think we should do both things at the same time: punishing businesses who hire illegals, and also start working on deporting the illegals.

 

That is only one part of the solution. The draw of employment is a key factor, but so is free medical care in the best medical facilities in the world, free college in the best universities in the world, birthright citizenship to the children of illegals, driver licenses in some states to illegals, sanctuary cities, the ability to move significant portions of earnings back to country of origin (remittances), free legal defense, free food for your children, and a government and law enforcement apparatus that has - to this point - looked the other way. It all has to stop. NOW.

All of the above constitute "the magnet" in my view.

 

Too late. You made it personal earlier. But be aware, I also have the same button to use.

 

There are plenty of stories where companies got punished. Trouble is the way the law is written. It has no real teeth to it. And it focuses more on the company than the lawbreaker.

For instance, say Jose shows up and you need a worker. You want to obey the law. But you find out that you do not have to use E verify. It is optional. Say you get 50 Joses daily, how much do you spend trying to learn if he is here illegally?

 

They are going back to a county that they illegal came from, if it has negative in pacts on that country I do not care. And do you really think all 11 million will go back in one month it will take years to do that.

 

Not wrong at all. Here, take your pick of articles that show that is exactly what Obama was doing. Busing them in and letting them go.

http://rickwells.us/govt-vans-illegal-aliens-north-america/

https://www.google.com/search?sourc...+illegals+bussed+into+the+interior+and+let+go

 

AGAIN..I posted and you quoted where it states that the change in "counting" began in the Bush Admin.

And using Alex Jones nutblog conspiracy site for anything other than a laugh is ridiculous

 

Lets get back to the question of the thread. How can anyone be against deporting criminal aliens?

 

Most people are not against deporting illegals who have been convicted of felonies or violent Misdemeanors.

Unfortunately Trump's new plan prioritizes not just people conficted of felonies and misdemeanors, but even focuses on folks simply who have been charged with a crime..who of course could be totally innocent.