How Japan Has Almost Eradicated Gun Crime

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    Don’t fall. I don’t see any authorities around to supervise the guys turning your chair. :)
     
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    When I was there I missed the government enforced social control. I don't know what that is. It is true that they haven't fallen prey to diversity and they are quite racist. A lot of it is common sense. As an example, vehicle licensing increases in cost as a vehicle ages. That keeps very old cars off the roads and helps Toyota, Nissan and others. New cars are good for the environment and the economy. I prefer life in the U.S. but Japanese life isn't that bad.
     
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    I remember at a certain time of day, everyone ( as far as I could see) would stop what they were doing and go outside and do some form of exercise. Do they still do that?
     
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    Scaramucci:
    Here's why Trump won’t get re-elected

    “He’s abnormal — he acts abnormal, he says abnormal things, he tweets abnormal things,” Scaramucci said. “He bullies private citizens. He has a bellicosity of rhetoric that’s shocking for an American president and so, what’s happened is the bell curve of normalcy has shifted and the delegates here have accepted some hypernormalisation.” “It’s like if you have a crazy uncle,” he added. “He’s acting crazy. You’re at the dinner table and you’re trying to ignore some of the things he’s saying and hope that the spasm of crazy goes away. But it’s not going away and that’s the big issue.”
     
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    Only their weapons evolve...
     
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    Perhaps same in Japan...
    "Journalist Jake Adelstein once attended a shooting practice, which ended with the gathering up of the bullet casings - and there was great concern when one turned out to be missing."
    "One bullet shell was unaccounted for - one shell had fallen behind one of the targets - and nobody was allowed to leave the facilities until they found the shell," he says.
     
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    Scaramucci wants to extend his 15 minutes. His statement that Trump won't be re-elected is evidence that he's incompetent, dishonest or both. He acted like a schmuck, got fired and he's been majorly butthurt ever since. He's a nobody.
     
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    And he seems to (somehow) not realize all the things he mentioned were just as true in 2016 as they are now.
     
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    Trump hurt his **** and he can't get over it.
     
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    Any ex-Trump employee who manages to stay out of jail should get a little credit...no?
     
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    I'm sure some do. I didn't see it. They are a very disciplined people.
     
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    Japan has always been an odd duck.

    Modern Japanese were urged to embrace the tactics of Adolph Hitler by a public relations official in the Japan's largest political party, the Liberal Democratic Party. He has even written a book for the party faithful, "Hitler Election Strategy: A Bible for Certain Victory in Modern Elections".

    "The book drew immediate condemnation from the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, which has long criticized the rather frequent publication in Japan of books warning about a 'Jewish conspiracy.'"

    "'It is almost beyond belief that such a work would be released as the civilized world pauses on the 50th anniversary of D-Day to reflect on the horrors which Hitler's Germany and her allies inflicted on the world.' Rabbi Abraham Cooper, the center's associate dean said in a statement. 'The notion that any element of an important political party in any democracy would sanction and promote Nazi tactics poses a fundamental threat to that very democracy.'" Andrew Pollock, Japanese Book Praises Hitler for his Electoral Techniques, The New York Times, June 8, 1994, p. A 10.

    Hitler and the Nazis were gun control zealots.
     
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    Did you dabble in any illicit drugs while you were in Japan? The eye-popping price would’ve clued you in to the government-enforced social control, and if you had been caught with those drugs, then the lesson of what exactly government-enforced social control is would’ve been taught to you most harshly.

    What you can merrily puff away on in the coffee shops of Amsterdam will land you in jail for years in Japan.
     
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    Americans who really think they are " really feeling Japanese" are kidding themselves.

    "Japan's lack of crime is more the result of the very extensive powers of the Japanese police, and the distinctive relation of the Japanese citizenry to authority. Further, none of the reasons which have made gun control succeed in Japan (in terms of disarming citizens) exist in the U.S.

    The Japanese criminal justice system bears more heavily on a suspect than any other system in an industrial democratic nation. One American found this out when he was arrested in Okinawa for possessing marijuana: he was interrogated for days without an attorney, and signed a confession written in Japanese that he could not read. He met his lawyer for the first time at his trial, which took 30 minutes.

    Unlike in the United States, where the Miranda rule limits coercive police interrogation techniques, Japanese police and prosecutors may detain a suspect indefinitely until he confesses. (Technically, detentions are only allowed for three days, followed by ten day extensions approved by a judge, but defense attorneys rarely oppose the extension request, for fear of offending the prosecutor.) Bail is denied if it would interfere with interrogation.

    Even after interrogation is completed, pretrial detention may continue on a variety of pretexts, such as preventing the defendant from destroying evidence. Criminal defense lawyers are the only people allowed to visit a detained suspect, and those meetings are strictly limited."

    Japan: Gun Control and People Control, By David B. Kopel, 12/88.
    http://www.davekopel.com/2A/Foreign/Japan-Gun-Control-and-People-Control.htm
     
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    I read an article that said the Japanese court’s conviction rates for drug-related crimes is upwards of 95%.

    That is just buzznuts. That means that in Japan, if you get arrested for drugs, you’re guilty.
     
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    Gun control fans are turning Japanese. ;-)

     
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    Gun control can work in a police state.

    "Even after interrogation is completed, pretrial detention may continue on a variety of pretexts, such as preventing the defendant from destroying evidence. Criminal defense lawyers are the only people allowed to visit a detained suspect, and those meetings are strictly limited.

    Partly as a result of these coercive practices, and partly as a result of the Japanese sense of shame, the confession rate is 95%.

    For those few defendants who dare to go to trial, there is no jury. Since judges almost always defer to the prosecutors' judgment, the trial conviction rate for violent crime is 99.5%.
    Of those convicted, 98% receive jail time.

    In short, once a Japanese suspect is apprehended, the power of the prosecutor makes it very likely the suspect will go to jail. And the power of the policeman makes it quite likely that a criminal will be apprehended.

    The police routinely ask "suspicious" characters to show what is in their purse or sack. In effect, the police can search almost anyone, almost anytime, because courts only rarely exclude evidence seized by the police -- even if the police acted illegally."
    Japan: Gun Control and People Control, By David B. Kopel, 12/88.
    http://www.davekopel.com/2A/Foreign/Japan-Gun-Control-and-People-Control.htm
     
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    Staying out of jail doesn't equate to being innocent of crimes, just look at Hillary, for whom you voted.
     
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    Always diversion from the original topic. Carry on.
     
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    Perhaps that would be adequate punishment for the indicted Trump people.
     
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    Very sad. Most Jews, Christians, and Muslims believe that all Humans are G-d's creations. All Humans have innate value. Sadly many people espouse Social Darwinism.
     
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    Sadly, in USA many people do not value Human lives.
     
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    Why did you edit my post and leave out my comments?
     
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    "Japanese police officers rarely use guns and put much greater emphasis on martial arts - all are expected to become a black belt in judo. They spend more time practising kendo (fighting with bamboo swords) than learning how to use firearms."
    "The response to violence is never violence, it's always to de-escalate it. Only six shots were fired by Japanese police nationwide [in 2015]," says journalist Anthony Berteaux. "What most Japanese police will do is get huge futons and essentially roll up a person who is being violent or drunk into a little burrito and carry them back to the station to calm them down."

    We just need more Mexican cooks...not more guns.
     
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    The reality is that leftists like you don't believe in equal application of the law nor in law itself. You're more than happy to look the other way at crime and corruption when it's a Democrat involved and you're also more than happy to weaponize the government against those that don't goose-step to your ideology.
     

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