How much does the US pay the UK to hold Assange prisoner?

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  1. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please, name us a dozen. I can't think of any.
     
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    America.
    hmmm.

    I struggle to think of two.

    Basically he's a western media guy. All his scandals are western scandals. He's only pissed off one country. America,
    Unfortunately that is absolutely the last country you want to make enemies of.

    Still he chose his life. He wanted it, he's got it and he's loving it.
    I struggle to think of him as a victim. More of a deliberate troll.
     
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  3. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, he will probably be mincemeat, when they are done with him.
    No, there I can't agree with you. He doesn't look like he is enjoying the status of a wanted/hunted man. He is more like a guy with a mission and commitment... not a troll.
    We, the people, owe him for letting us know the truths about our government's dealings, actions and the lies they feed us. Our elected representatives should not lie to us! If we can't trust our own government, then whom can we trust? If our own government is corrupt, so will soon be the rest of the country. Politicians, or those who serve the public, should hold themselves to the highest standard, should set an example in words and deeds. Our present society is going downhill in a gallop because of corrupt and greedy, lying leaders.
    If it was up to me, Assange and Manning would be given the highest medal there is for their heroism in exposing government corruption.
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It would be too long of a list to name them all.
    Well, he was right on! To this day the lies about Nazi-Germany persist.
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please, name some names.
     
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    FAKE NEWS!

    The UK isn't being paid to hold Assange prisoner.
     
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    Yes, but this is true of any media. No human is immune to bad judgement.

    In the last analysis, we either have entities like Wikileaks and a few other independents who publish important information, or we end up with today's mainstream media who punch out government spin dressed as their own.

    Lots of people don't like the editor of a newspaper but like the newspaper itself.

    i think we're at that moment of history now, witness my Sy Hersh example - one of the finest American investigative reporters who can no longer get published in the US because his articles are critical of power and dismantle their lies.

    Here we differ quite strongly. I've never really understood turning trust over to a bunch of people I've never met, but who I know have an agenda that changes at their whim once they are in office. Over many decades I've watched successive governments repeatedly lie and let their supporters down as they ply their trade in exchange for power and money.

    Today in America the government benefit the oligarchy and not the people (HERE).
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well? Are you going to provide a link for that? [​IMG]
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Spot on. Establishment politics is a 'tight ship' and woe betide any outside interloper who tries to rock it. Need I mention the personages of Nigel Farage and Donald Trump? Not forgetting Julian Assange? Of course not!
     
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    He gives speeches to crowds out the embassy window and has always enjoyed the limelight. He courts it.
    The more controversial he can be the more he gets it. That's his schtick.

    He isn't an accidental victim in this. He is an instigator. He sought it out and provoked it. He trolled America and America wants to slap him.
    Yes he has a mission, yes he has commitment, but it wasn't thrust on him by circumstance. He chose his life.

    The more sensation he can attract the better. He's a media guy. He sells stories for a living.
     
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    You missed the point of the quote, it had nothing to do with lies about Nazi Germany despite that the author was Hitler's Minister of Propaganda. Having said that, what lies about Nazi Germany are you referring to?
     
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    No need. He isn't in prison.
    Nor is there any law he has broken here, he is hiding from a possible extradition to Sweden, where the case has been dropped. The extradition proceedings are now under review and expected to be dropped.
     
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    AND they have a long and well documented record of deception. Yes, they are much less trustworthy than the average human. Power corrupts, and only the most naïve do not acknowledge that and consider that when analyzing government statements.
     
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    No. Brits don't do business that way.
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ahh, you go first and tell me what lies you and Goebbels were thinking of?
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    O.k., I agree with you... he is a media guy and as such needs an audience. But I do not condemn him for his revelations, I welcome them.
     
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    Well, it was a question.... one wonders, of course.
    I read on the web that by January 2015 Britain's taxpayers had already forked out
    £10mn!! Figure, how much that would be today? Wouldn't you think, the Brits would expect some reimbursement?


    https://www.rt.com/uk/220655-extortionate-cost-safeguarding-assange/
     
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    Too much Russian news/propaganda. I told you--the Brits don't do business that way.
     
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    You're the one who brought up an irrelevant point and now you don't want to answer my question, therefore never mind, I'm no longer interested.
     
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    Thanks, very kind of you!
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    O.k. with me.
     
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    No, he's hiding from persecution by a corrupt system comprised of the UK, Sweden, and the US. Wake up and smell it fgs! And I'll bet on this - in the unlikely event that extradition proceedings are dropped, he'll be snatched the moment he walks out of the door of the embassy, and whisked away to the US, never to be heard of again. This is the most vindictively sickening instance of a combined and contrived abuse of power I've ever known.
     
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    Last I heard the cost of Metropolitan policing for Assange's 'house arrest' was £12 million. That was about 2 years ago (HERE).

    In regard to how these things are done (reimbursement), the following should be an indicator. It is always about money, but the method of compensation varies:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...r-iraqs-oil-in-aftermath-of-war-chilcot-shows
     
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    I concur with that, but will add that he is a drama queen who deliberately provoked that response and is loving the result.
     
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    I seriously doubt that - he's a family man.
     
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