How soon will Putin force Assad to step down as Syrian Dictator?

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  1. Jimbo11

    Jimbo11 Well-Known Member

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    I hope you are right. It could eliminate mush suffering and the flood of Syrian refugees. But I don't see any real evidence at this point.
     
  2. AboveAlpha

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    China is not a player in the Middle East.

    In order to be a player a nation needs Military Force Projection Capabilities or at the very least a nation needs to be bordering the region.

    China has neither.

    The solution to this problem is a DEAL that Putin will make with the U.S.

    It is inevitable....it is coming soon....and it will be good for everyone except the Islamic Extremists who need to be eradicated....and they will be.

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  3. Jimbo11

    Jimbo11 Well-Known Member

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    I believe and just hope you are not Donald Trump, incognito.
     
  4. AboveAlpha

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    The key is Assad's removal and strictly set up and observed free and fair elections.

    Assad is a Shia Alawite and Shiites only comprise 17% of the entire Syrian population.

    The rest by a vast majority are Sunni's.

    The ONLY way to completely destroy ISIS and Al-Nusra which is the Syrian arm of Al-Qaeda in Syria is to get the Sunni Arab's on board and to do this we need to remove Assad.

    PUTIN KNOWS THIS!!!

    But Putin has major problems of his own as the Russian Economy is close to a complete collapse and the U.S. is the ONLY NATION both willing and capable of helping Russia.

    Putin will remove Assad.

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    I think I would have to shoot myself if I voted for Trump! LOL!!!

    Believe me....I know what I am talking about.

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    If Assad is removed from power in Syria this will stop the flow of refugees exiting Syria.

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  5. Kiwi33

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    The Russian hawks, didn't arrange terror in the USA or round the USA. Hawks of the USA do it constantly and in Russia and around, beginning after collapse of the USSR.

    Putin didn't make mistakes, Putin provides safety of the country (life) it is the main thing. I agree, Russians pay, but life costs much...
     
  6. AboveAlpha

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    Come on!!!

    Do you actually think the U.S. wants to destroy Russia???

    ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!

    The only reason that the U.S. and Russia did not become very steadfast and close allies after WWII was because of the ambitions of Stalin.

    Stalin was the one who started invading Eastern European Nations and Stalin was the one who tried to annex West Berlin which the U.S. prevented.

    There is absolutely no reason that the U.S. and Russia cannot become close allies.

    It's in the interests of both nations.

    And remember.....Russia has nothing the U.S. needs...except some good Vodka and Caviar.

    But Russia desperately needs the U.S.

    A Russian/American-Canadian Partnership would be the dominant economic, political and military force on planet Earth.

    But the longer Putin waits....the less relevant Russia becomes.

    AboveAlpha
     
  7. Kiwi33

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    It also, will calm aggressive Ukrainian army? what you think about it?
     
  8. Iranian Monitor

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    While there are clearly attempts to create divisions between Iran and Russia on Syria, and some questions as to Russia's actual motives and its willingness to stay on course on the issue, I note that Putin will be visiting Iran on Monday.
    http://news.yahoo.com/putin-meet-ayatollah-khamenei-during-iran-visit-kremlin-133918722.html
    Putin to meet Ayatollah Khamenei during Iran visit: Kremlin

    In the meantime, this is a pretty cool video!
    http://theaviationist.com/2015/11/20/iriaf-f-14s-escort-ruaf-tu-95/
    Watch this video of Iranian F-14 Tomcats escorting a Russian Tu-95 bomber during air strike in Syria

    [​IMG]
     

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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    A dominant force? What for? Aren't you tired of playing Fort?
     
  10. Kiwi33

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    I don't speak about the USSR. In the USSR there was other ideology... after collapse of the USSR, Russia thought, all - now with the USA we will be on friendly terms and aspired to it. The Soviet ideology left, but the USA found other reason for the unfriendly relations. It is the American geopolitics...

    ps: For Russia from the USA, even vodka isn't necessary. Nothing:smile:
     
  11. Jimbo11

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    There is no reason that all these nations can live in peace and benefit for each other.

    If there ever is a Russian/American-Canadian Partnership....and I always add Canada because Canada and the U.S. are intrinsically one in the same nation....but if there is a partnership....what happened in the Ukraine would never have happened.

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    Exactly.

    After Russia annexed the Crimea both the U.S. and Canada increased Oil production so high that it flooded the global oil market and oil prices plummeted.

    When Putin removed all Spetsnaz forces from along the Northwestern Black Sea shoreline as they fully intended to create another insurrection like that in the Crimea which would have allowed Putin to annex a swath of the Ukraine from Russia all the way to the Crimea effectively connecting Russia by land to the Crimea.....

    .....when Putin called Spetsnaz back....then and only then did the U.S. and Canada lower Oil production.

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    This whole problem began with the worldwide recession in 2007 and 2008.

    The Russian people who had never been in a free market did not understand what was going on and Putin used this to his advantage to blame the U.S....which allowed him to consolidate power, change the Russian constitution and seize EVERY SINGLE LARGE PRIVATELY OWNED COMPANY IN RUSSIA.

    Now Putin and 110 of his buddies all being former members of the KGB, GRU, Soviet Communist and Military Leadership and some former FBS members from STEALING 35% of all Russian wealth.

    There has NEVER in the history of mankind existed a nation where only 111 people owned 35% of all wealth.

    This never happened even in the Middle Ages!!!

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    A dominant force for good.

    Let's face it....if the U.S. did not exist this planet would be in a state of chaos.

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    The U.S. has no issues if Iran helps destroy the ISIS and Al-Nusra.

    But Iran has to clear all flight activities with the U.S. Military just as Russia does.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    a Muscovite myth, actually USA ultra - patriots (zbigniew brzezinski, etc) try to save Muscovite empire
     
  16. Jeannette

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    Alpha I have news for you, Assad said that any changes to form a new government structure, will start when Syria is free of terrorists. Then there will be a provisional government for at least two years before new elections will be called.

    As for Vladimir Putin, unlike the US, he does believe in democracy and the will of the people...no matter the cost. So until the will of the Syrian people decide otherwise, Assad will remain president.
    :lol:

    [video=youtube;BsgEJvAMt4s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsgEJvAMt4s[/video]

    [video=youtube;dXp3_Cpej64]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXp3_Cpej64[/video]
     
  17. AboveAlpha

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    I spent YEARS in Russia and other former Soviet states providing security for U.S.Military Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Weapons Destruction Teams.

    The U.S. spent over $300 BILLION buying these weapons and destroying them in an environmentally safe way.

    If we hadn't there would still be Nuclear Weapons in the Ukraine and Georgia pointed right at Moscow!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Putin had no plans to seize the territory connecting the Crimea. For Russia it is better that Donbass became part of Ukraine if it is possible. The population of these regions, will affect other Ukraine for fast good relations with Russia...
     
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    Yeah...that's not going to happen.

    The key to defeating ISIS and Al-Nusra is to remove Assad.

    It is inevitable.

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    Putin had every intention of doing this.

    The recall of Spetsnaz was the sole reason why the U.S. and Canada cut oil production.

    AboveAlpha
     
  20. Jeannette

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    Washington actions have shown otherwise and its policies have said otherwise.

    Wrong again! The Soviet Union did not invade Eastern Europe, it freed them from Nazi Germany, so let's not rewrite history. Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin decided at Malta that the US would control Germany and Western Europe, and the Soviet Union would control Eastern Europe.
    Washington will never accept any nation unless it bows to its own moral standards, and that is something Russia will never concede to do. Russia has a different set of values.


    You keep believing that.

    Different values.


    You're funny! The less relevant the US becomes in the world, the more you say Russia is irrelevant. This is what I meant about a different set of values. While Washington persists in lies and deceits, Russia believes in more productive enterprises.
     
  21. AboveAlpha

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    Jeannette.....I find your lack of knowledge about this appalling.

    The Soviet's invaded Czechoslovakia and occupied it from 1968 to 1989.

    Northern Norway 1945-1946.

    Bonholm 1945-1946.

    Austria 1945-1955.

    Manchuria 1945-1946.

    Kuril Islands 1945-1946.

    Korea 1945-1948.

    This list does not even include all the Eastern European Nations such as Poland, Romania, Hungry...etc....that the Soviet's invaded during WWII then did not leave until the collapse of the Soviet Union.

    AboveAlpha
     
  22. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What you are saying is that Washington will continue to support the terrorists in order to break up Syria, unless Assad is gone and a US puppet is put in. Well I'm glad you are admitting it at least.

    You have no idea what Putin's intent was or is, nor will you ever know, because you refuse to listen to what he says, and instead you persist on projecting your own ideas and words into his mouth.
     
  23. AboveAlpha

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    What I am saying is Putin is well aware the only way to destroy the ISIS and Al-Nusra is to get the Sunni Arab nations on board.

    And the only way to do this is to remove Assad.

    Assad will be removed from power.

    AboveAlpha
     
  24. litwin

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    no, man question is way bigger then this. USA does´t want see china taking over far east and Siberia , that´s why many in USA want to save this barbaric empire (ulus)
     
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    But the USA don't want it. (the Minsk arrangements) On it why the Ukrainian junta constantly shoots at Donetsk... (provokes)
     

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