Hows your global warming?

It's both actually. Global warning refers to the increase in the global mean temperature. Climate change is a broader term used to describe other effects both global and regional as a result of anthroprogenic global warming.

 

The reality of the RCP45 suite of models. Grey represents the 95% confidence envelop. Black is the best guess. The other colors are from 5 different observational datasets.



The reality of the CMIP5 suite of models. Green represents the 95% confidence envelop. Red represents the best guess 5yr forecast. The two black lines are observations from two different datasets.

 

This is essentially a "nuh uh" argument. Arguments in this form are not very convincing. And by "convincing" I mean an abundance of data and repeatable experiments that support your position. In other words, wow me with facts and data instead of one liners that appeal to an ideology instead of a truth.

 

I finally found out where all this heat was coming from (for me at least/where I'm posting from); it's heat from North Africa (not the Atlantic ocean like I wondered).

 

It's hot right now during the day at 80F degrees at the moment... and it's bright, wearing my shades on in the inside too; not a cloud in the sky; it's a dry heat, hopefully for my lawn's sake it rains before Sunday. - just treated it with a lawn feed/weed killer/moss killer this morning then found out post factum that you shouldn't do that during a drought; then I found out it might rain tomorrow or Sunday....
Cutting it kind of close for my lawn there Global Warming Ms. heatwave after the snow Mother Nature you.

 

Excellent data from multiple sources. It's a bit more impressive than the nose picker's scoffing about something too complicated to understand. On a personal level. during my 30 years in Florida, the beach erosion has accelerated with the rising sea level. The Corps of Engineers had to pump sand in to rescue buildings ready to topple into the Atlantic. Now the Corps has to do this every 3-4 years.

The melting of the ice caps has caused some dramatic changes in the weather. In Ohio this year, we went from a record breaking 70 degree February to an unheard of sub zero March! I left Florida to escape increasingly deadly hurricanes, Good timing, I missed a Cat 4. Ohio had 3-4 inches of snow total this winter.

Polar cap data is especially alarming. Weather patterns are getting increasingly erratic because of it. Scientific researchers have debated if we may have reached the "Tipping Point" of no return. That's when no matter what we do, the environment will continue to slide and things will get worse. Clearly, we have reached a point where naysayers are increasingly ignored.

 

Are you saying global warming is just a pinto liberal conspiracy?

 

As noted so many times before, FL is sinking, as in "subducting" because of the population growth and pumping all the water out of the landstructures. The sea isn't "rising" significantly on it's own, the land is sinking. I know, details, right?

 

Yes they do

 

most of North America has experienced warmer than average temps

 

Not from what I'm seeing in this thread. They know global warming means there are still going to be cold days. They understand it's about global temps over time.

 

Global warming is not new

The earth has gone through countless warming and cooling periods

and will continue to do so in spite of tree huggers best efforts to stop it

 

True. But, just because the warming was primarily the result of nature in the past doesn't preclude it from being primary the result of humans today.

If "best efforts" include ceasing all CO2 emission while continuing aerosol emission then not only can we stop the warming (eventually), but we could also cause the Earth to cool...anthroprogenically. Note that I am not advocating for this scenario. I'm just telling you what the result would be in that hypothetical scenario.

 

Environmentalists claim that humans are changing the climste but you have no evidence to prove that

Nature didnt need your help in the past and does not need it now

 

Here's evidence:


https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
The current warming trend is of particular significance because most of it is extremely likely (greater than 95 percent probability) to be the result of human activity since the mid-20th century and proceeding at a rate that is unprecedented over decades to millennia.1

Earth-orbiting satellites and other technological advances have enabled scientists to see the big picture, collecting many different types of information about our planet and its climate on a global scale. This body of data, collected over many years, reveals the signals of a changing climate.

The heat-trapping nature of carbon dioxide and other gases was demonstrated in the mid-19th century.2 Their ability to affect the transfer of infrared energy through the atmosphere is the scientific basis of many instruments flown by NASA. There is no question that increased levels of greenhouse gases must cause the Earth to warm in response.

Ice cores drawn from Greenland, Antarctica, and tropical mountain glaciers show that the Earth’s climate responds to changes in greenhouse gas levels. Ancient evidence can also be found in tree rings, ocean sediments, coral reefs, and layers of sedimentary rocks. This ancient, or paleoclimate, evidence reveals that current warming is occurring roughly ten times faster than the average rate of ice-age-recovery warming.3

 

Can you concede that Nature is capable of warming also?

Environmentalists are full of speculation but no solid evidence that its not caused by Nature

 

Sure..over a much longer span of time.

The ISSUE...is the rapidity of it occurring because of our influence and our inability to adapt fast enough

 

Answer:

I dont know amd neither do you

 

Don't know WHAT?

I don't doubt that there is much that you don't know...I'm just curious as to whether you can articulate it

 

No such "evidence" available for this. Link please.

 

Yes, of course. Can you concede that mankind, since the beginning of the industrial age, coupled with slash and burn agriculture and the spread of civilization can affect the environment? NASA has not only correlated this fact, but shown the change is far greater than nature alone.

Disagreed as multiple science reports have proved. You can deny evolution, claim the world is flat and post that the Moon landing is a hoax, but those are opinions. The science shown on NASA's website is fact.

 

I have not said any of those things

But I do say the argument that climate change is caused by humanas is not convincing

 

so why has it accelerated soo much?

 

if this was all naturally based, you'd be able to specify such specific causes such as volcanic activity