"I am the Chosen One!" and now the Plague.

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    I've seen some uninformed posts in my time, but this is a dozy. The great, vast number of Christian Churches are not meeting, rather they are streaming their services. So your ridiculous claim that the essential Christian doctrine compels in person gatherings is as unsubstantiated as some the most ungrounded things ever posted.

    The essential doctrines of the Christian Church are all contained in the Creed of the Apostles. What part of that creed are you claiming supports your vicious slander that the Church kills and piles up corpses like mountains that "sleeping" Christians ignore?

    In Iran the "faithful" are still licking the public shrines, can you point me to your posts of outrage over this?

    Further it looks like your claims are fake news:

    https://bethanysmc.org/bethany-press-release

    This Russian Church posted the following:

    Bethany Slavic Missionary Church believes in the value of community health and human well-being. The church has complied with all federal, state, and local guidelines and regulations at the time of issuance. The following proactive measures have been taken:

    • In a video address on March 14, 2020, Rev. Adam Bondaruk stated that the church “will comply with all regulations” and encouraged everyone to maintain personal hygiene, wash hands, remain home if sick, and maintain social distancing as recommended by the CDC.

    • In immediate compliance to the recently issued Sacramento County shelter-in-place order, the church closed its doors on March 18, 2020, and moved all church affiliated services, meetings, home groups and fellowship gatherings of any size solely online.

    • Virtual conferencing platforms were obtained and made available for all meetings and fellowships.

    Response to Fake News Media Reports

    It has been reported that 71 members of this church had fallen ill. These reports are believed to be inaccurate and falsely place the emphasis on this church.

    • The church has not been informed that any of its parishioners have died from COVID-19 as reported by the media.

    • The church did not condone any church related in-person gatherings outside the church. It disputes accusations that its members widely continued to gather as reported.

    So, let's do a little math. The Sacramento Bee has an OPINION piece dated 4/2/20 that contains the slander you are parrotting:

    https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/article241713526.html

    So that story has no name sources and does not date the information.

    It links to another:

    https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavirus/article241715346.html

    The article has "unnamed sources" claiming home groups continued to meet in violation of S-I-P orders and NAMED sources within the Church Body that have no information to support the Bee's slander that you have picked up and unquestioningly passed along.

    Now it takes a few days to conduct interviews and put together a story, so figure these "unnamed sources" were interviewed on March 30 and 31.

    The S-I-P went into place on 3/20. The next Sunday was the 22nd. So if 70 cases popped up due to violating S-I-P orders, they were violated on 3/22.

    Let's see if we can find the 71 cases in Sacramento County that occurred after the incubation period and before 3/31.

    Mean incubation period is 5 days: https://www.labmate-online.com/news...g-is-the-incubation-period-for-covid-19/52003

    So we are looking for cases that arose from 3/27 to 3/31.

    3/27 - 164 total cases

    https://www.saccounty.net/news/latest-news/Pages/COVID-19UpdateMarch27.aspx

    3/31 - 224 total

    There were only 60 cases during this period, and so attributing 71 of the 60 to this Russian Church violating S-I-P orders is completely illogical. And "one in three" is only 20, and even that number is unsubstantiated. And with HIPPA laws, it's not something that even can be legally substantiated.

    You might want to gulp down Fake News Crap a little slower and double check it before you slander your fellow citizens who exercise their God-given right to hold religious beliefs that differ from yours.
     
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  2. Kyklos

    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    Speaking of worst presidents...by midnight the death toll for Covid-Trump-19 in the U.S. will reach 8X times the deaths in the 9/11 attack--23,529 American deaths currently.
     
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    Gasp! Just like yearly traffic accidents! Or even the yearly flu deaths inside the United States of between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010. Nobody remembers leftists shrieking that Obama was to blame when 61,000 people died per year on his watch from the flu.
     
  4. Kyklos

    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    More disinformation going around the internet. Add to all those historically average deaths 23,529 more persons (twice your number of the entire 2009 pandemic). Your average numbers are ambiguous.

    Obama did not engage in insider trading with his friends to profit off the pandemic, nor did he argue for "heard immunity" to justify doing nothing.

    Obama didn't down play the danger only to contradict himself later to claim he warned of the danger of Covid-19.

    Obama did not ignore warnings from WHO and CDC of the threat.

    Obama didn't fly in infected persons on the same airplane as uninfected persons to Travis Air Force Bass and then dispersing them all over the US on commercial airlines.

    Obama didn't turn down WHO test kits so that doctors couldn't track the flu victors. American deaths have increased by 79 persons since writing this post to 23,608.

    Trump took none of the actions that Obama took.
    • The Obama administration declared swine flu, or H1N1, a public health emergency six weeks before H1N1 was declared a pandemic.

    • No H1N1 deaths had yet been recorded in the United States.

    • Six months after that initial declaration, when more than 1,000 deaths had occurred, Obama himself declared H1N1 a national emergency.
    In other words, all this suffering and many American deaths were unnecessary because Trump didn't listen to numerous warnings from experts.
    The average number of flu deaths from 1976 to 2007 was 23,607 deaths.
    Also, 2009 H1N1 Flu Pandemic recorded about 18,300 deaths in the United States and up to 203,000 deaths worldwide.
     
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    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    Currently, the death toll of Trump's incompetence of not responding to the Covid pandemic has resulted in more than 9X times the death total in the 9/11 attack, or 27,085 persons, fathers, mothers, and children.
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    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    10X times the 9/11 death toll now--30,826 American deaths from Trump's incompetence and greed.
     
  7. dairyair

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    I thought the Christian God was the God of the whole Universe. That included tiny Earth.
    God has a plan? Yes or No?
     
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    God has a plan ... and the lesson we get from the virus is the U.S. needs to aggressively confront China economically, legally, diplomatically, culturally, and militarily. God has put it on us to stop evil.
     
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    Another clownish post. Congratulations.
     
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    We are failing miserably then.
     
  11. Kyklos

    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    10X times the 9/11 death toll now--30,826 American deaths from Trump's incompetence and greed.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your posts are filled with irrational nonsense.
     
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    It's not the fault of Christians, capitalists, atheists, communists, or authoritarians. It's the fault of our bodies that are susceptible to infection by a highly contagious virus that jumped from an animal into a human.
     
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    No, it’s the fault of the Chinese who didn't know how to handle a dangerous virus.
     
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    Back in January and February, you leftists were accusing Trump of xenophobia, overreaction, and damaging the economy because of his travel ban and quarantine issuances regarding travel to and from China. Now your exaggerared accusations are the opposite. I also recall Pelosi counseling everyone to comingle, eat, drink, be merry and visit your local Chinese restaurant. Leftists can't seem to get anything right anymore. Moderation has exited the building. Even the capacity for shame has vanished from the leftist realm, leaving them unbalanced and reckless. So much so that they've chosen someone as their candidate who appears to be suffering from dementia and is being forced to apologize to the fractured left for everything for which he has ever stood....leaving them with a demented nothing.
     
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    They couldn't have stopped the spread if they tried. We can't either.

    But if it makes you sleep better at night to have someone, anyone, to blame, so be it.
     
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    A common phenomenon in China was the drop-dead syndrome in which some infected by the corona virus simply fell dead in the streets. The internet shows many photos such deaths on China’s street, but none in the United States.

    Yet, in New York between April 1st and April 5th, there were 1,100 corpses found on city streets, or inside a home. This is 8X times greater than last year for New Jersey. These corpses were not the ordinary dismembered bodies normally found on American streets.

    There is a media blackout of the massive carnage we are experiencing at this moment. It is like a 9/11 attack every other day.

    An anonymous tip reported 17 bodies stuffed in room at a New Jersey rest home for the elderly. Meanwhile, mafia boss, Trump, is stealing billions of dollars while the American people are being overwhelmed by preventable death.

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    They should not have been playing with the virus at the lab and let it escape.

    They bungled it.
     
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    Must be part of God's plan. Actually, all things that happen have to be part of God's plan.
     
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    It’s God's way of telling us we must confront China economically, politically, diplomatically, and militarily.
     
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    Yes, you said that already.
    I said we are failing miserably.
    Nothing has changed.

    So the plan must be for us to fail miserably.
     
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    I’m comforted in the fact that no Democrat could do better than Trump. And 99% would do worse.
     
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    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    37,000 American have died to date from mafia boss Trump's mismanaging the Corona Virus pandemic. This means we are experiencing mass death 12.5X times the 9/11 terrorist attack casualties. Meanwhile, Trump is cutting Medicare for millions of people, price gouging desperately needed medical equipment, committing insider trading with Congress, suppressing the national voting systems, funneling billions of dollars to his own family companies and political friends. The Trump administration is like a driver who stops at a car wreck and mugs the injured and dead passengers.
     
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    Yawn.
     
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    How many more will die due to your OBSCENE affronts against LOGIC? HOW MANY MUST DIE? Who knows.
     

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