I can't be friends with political opponents

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  1. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    Trump called for extreme torture and the mass murder of tens of thousands of innocent people, and this blood-thirsty crowds cheered. He called for violence and his blood-thirsty crowds cheered. He has attacked the foundations of liberty at every turn and calls anyone who opposes him, the enemy of the people. He attacks women in 3 am tweets, war heroes, and the families of fallen soldiers.

    I don't need to know another thing. Support that crap and you are not my friend. You are no better than a Nazi.

    Soldiers swear to defend the Constitution from ALL enemies of the Constitution, foreign and domestic, with their life. That applies to trump above all else. He IS the domestic enemy the founding fathers warned us about. And his crowds are the lesson lost from Nazi German.
     
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    Wow! You're really shoveling.
     
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    :rolleyes:
     
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    Do you get that what you just did is a prime example of 'othering'? You are correct about it being a tactic for propagandists, but then you essentially resort to propaganda yourself. That is on you.

    Sadly 'othering' is a tactic used across the board. Sometimes it is people on the left equating Trump voters to nazis or the Klan, other times people on the right insisting that Democrats 'hate America' or something similar. There are plenty of variations, all of which are about rendering the 'other' as an undifferentiated mass and then positioning them as 'the enemy'.

    All of this is rendered much easier if people seal themselves off from people with different views.

    If you think 'othering' is bad the first step to take is not doing it yourself.
     
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    Hmm...

    It wasn't my decision.
     
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    Well, okay, but if one really thinks there is something objectionably statist about Elizabeth Warren's "plan" for every thing (and make no mistake, hers are plans that will be executed from Washington) how can one say it without being accused of "othering"?

    I think it's a dumb word, though fashionable.
     
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    The example you have chosen is not remotely 'othering'. It is disagreeing with a specific piece of policy from a specific individual.
     
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    What? You are responsible for what you write.
     
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    I didn't decide for the leftists who treat me as their enemy.

    It was their choice to label and assault. Screw them. They have the option to apologise, beg forgiveness, and back it up with a change of behavior.
     
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    If yoi ignore history, you repeat it. We have shown you comparisons and your comment is, “you’re really shoveling it” I went to the Holocaust Museum and it was interesting how the victims of Nazi is him just couldn’t believe that the atrocities would happen..that’s why so many Jews stayed in Germany.
     
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    Yes just the way your president apologizes and bags forgiveness and back things up with the change of behavior LOL
     
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    My point is you are still pushing an absolutely ridiculous narrative. It's absurd. It's comical. It is a dead parrot.

    There are no Nazis under your bed, nor are they in your closet.

    Why do you waste time and energy with this nonsene?
     
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    I didn't know that you aren't American. That explains a lot.

    We have leftist nutjobs spouting all sorts of lies. I recommend you to consider that they might just be scamming you.
     
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    In this very thread we have a poster equating Trump supporters with Nazis. You can't call for border control without being called racist, and you can't object to Warren's health plan without someone saying you want people to die in the streets. I think civil disagreement is not possible in this environment, whether it's called othering or just hate.
     
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    I guess you think those neo-Nazis in Charlottesville was just a fluke. I suggest you go to the Holocaust Museum and you will learn how people said the same crap you’re saying. Soon you’ll be denying there was a Holocaust

    Thank goodness Republicans don’t attack us LOL I agree that civil disagreement is very difficult but I attributed to the orange buffoon in the White House who deliberately is dividing this country. I have never heard a president attack the opposite party and all the citizens who belong to it. And if you could justify that shame on you
     
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    Just stop. You're pushing a dead narrative.

    The end.
     
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    After WWII, they had to force Germans to walk through the death camps, to prove what happened. Many people will deny anything they simply don't want to believe. We are definitely seeing the emergence of right-wing authoritarianism. They publicly rationalize trumps comments away while secretly getting a rush from it. You can see that just by watching his often vicious crowds and the way he pumps them up.
     
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    We are definitely seeing the emergence of left-wing authoritarianism. One need only see the constant drumbeat of propaganda, such as exhibited in this post, to see the reality of the matter.
     
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    Put me in ignore rather than personally attack..grow up!
     
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    Please point out the personal attack. Was it perhaps, being told to grow up?
     
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    So basically, the OP wants to cut ties with his "friends" not agreeing with his political views. He doesn't sound like a very good friend to me since he is being the friendship solely on whether or not they agree with him politically.. So If I was one of his former "friends" I wouldn't feel to bad about it.
     
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    Maybe.

    On the other hand, he might just be tired of being called a Nazi!.
     
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    Nothing in the OP said anything about his friends calling him a nazi. The only reason he gives is that they don't agree with his personal views, and so he doesn't want to be friends with them anymore.
     
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    Are you saying that the OP never said: "Sooner or later, my liberal friends will make an ugly, preachy, judgmental comment about either Trump, Republicans, or people who vote for them..."?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/i-cant-be-friends-with-political-opponents.559652/

    I think you're full of crap.
     
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    To be fair, far righters and far lefters both tend to take anyone disagreeing with them as a personal attack, I was accused of being a "gun grabber" more than once for supporting things like Universe Background checks. A friend of mine who is a Trumper literally accused me of treason because I didn't agree with him that Trump was the greatest president in US history. Something tells me this might be a case of the OP taking someone expressing ideas that he disagrees with as a personal attack. The far left does this too, accusing anyone who doesn't agree with them as attacking them.

    Without actually seeing exactly the types of things his former friends said, which he considers to be preachy and judgemental we can't really say one way or another whether or not they were. But my personal experiences with very conservative friends says that there is a chance that he might have just overreacted to them expressing their own ideals.
     
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