I can't be friends with political opponents

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  1. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Read your post again, tomorrow.

    On one hand you say that we don't know, then you make assumptions...
     
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  2. Le Chef

    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    LOL, you're joking, right? Treason?

    P.S. I am the OP and have reconciled with my friend after reciprocal apologies. But we're wary of each other now, which is fine.
     
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  3. Le Chef

    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    Incorrect.
     
  4. Le Chef

    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    If you have a soul, he has a soul.

    He NEVER does the right thing? EVER?? Do you know him or his record well enough to make such a categorical statement? Check out the First Step Act.
     
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    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    Yes, there is that chance.
     
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    You have the quote wrong. I did not say he never did the right thing. I said he had no passion to do the right thing - ever.
     
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    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    Okay. And you know that he lacks this passion?
     
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    Oh that's right you have that 30 year old story you showed. That puts my premise in doubt. The passion comes out once every other generation.
     
  9. Le Chef

    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    No, your lack of complete familiarity with his entire life, good and bad, day to day, puts your premise in doubt.
     
  10. Renee

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    If I have a friend who defends adultery or degrades women by boasting about grabbing their *******, , or scapegoats groups of people with hateful rhetoric , I would not want to be their friend . What you call political views flows onto social views.
     
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    Grow up!
     
  12. Thought Criminal

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    Funny.
     
  13. Le Chef

    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    If I could just ask those who make continual references to Nazis, are you referring to card carrying members, or just people that get misty watching The History Channel and wish the Germans had won ww2?

    Or is "Nazi", to you, just a synonym for conservative?

    Maybe I'm unlucky, but I never seem to run into either of the first two types. Bigfoot, either.
     
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    3 Times I have been sat with a small group of people when someone mentioned Trump pr border control via EU Brexit... and people have become totally triggered and snowflakey and almost hysterical - putting their open palm up saying... "no, no, If you mention that again I will leave this table"!!!!! As far as I am concerned they can go to hell. It is they who are the idiots, incapable of any rational thought. I never stoop to console them nor want their company. They are pathetic as far as I am concerned. I will tell you why - and it is simple and right..... in every instance with such people the one fact remains - THEY WANT their views to be tolerated while shutting down opposing views. I, on the other hand, will respect all views and the right for any person to say whatever they wish. I never, ever complain or seek to hinder their right to speak.
    Put simply - THEY want to have their say yet will not accept you have the same right. For me, that is not good enough. I tell them what I think and they can jump in the nearest river as far as I am concerned.
     
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    The salient points for me are - truth, honesty and never be two-faced. I have never known or seen or heard a right of center person say something, about the contentious issues in vogue today, with a devious, semantics approach.
    If I am asked: "why do I want border control for UK" I will say exactly what I mean and I truthfully hold to my belief, in full faith and honesty. I will not say anything just to score a point. I never seek approval for what I say. But when leftie liberals reply: "you must be a racist xenophobe"... for a start there is no way at all nor any inclination in my stance for anyone to deem that my personal principled views upon other people regardless of race is anything linked with hatred. Yet the lefties go straight to that link upon my character. I never assume some nastiness in their character. I argue the points. I debate. I oppose and challenge. It is not a given that "WE ALL" act in the mindset (cognitive dissonance) highly prevalent within the leftie liberal camp.
    If a LL says ... "I love everybody, especially black and brown people and I don't want them stopped from coming into UK" I do not act, as they do, by saying something like.... "You hate whites, you hate your own country"!!! I am not at all racist or a hetr of people based on colour or ethnic mix, not one bit. I assume the same of all others in a debate. o why do the LLs not respect my person in the same way??? They absolutely do not.
     
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    I've met more Sasquatch than Nazis. And I haven't yet met a Sasquatch.
     
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    Maybe because you represent civility and tolerance. Progressives abandoned all that in favour of The Cult, and don't like being reminded of what they could (but fail) to be.
     
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    And there it is .. Cult-like behaviour.
     
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    Not by omission tho. What are you saying? Please speak I dont get offended//never.
     
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    Those who freak out and leave the table.
     
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    Yes, they sure do have a problem.
     
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    I have many liberal friends - most voted for Trump.
    I blame myself for that. ;-)
     
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    wow so much is veiled here
     
  24. Renee

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    youre joking about never getting offended ..I hope
     
  25. Renee

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    i doubt if they were liberals!
     
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