I told you so: Gay students want Catholic priest fired for being Catholic

I disagree with this guy as well, but I'm not going restrict his right to express his views. That's downright un-American. You don't have to listen or agree with what he has to say, but you have no right keep him from saying it. Laws protecting free speech aren't meant to protect your feelings as well, Johnny.

Some of you folks need to grow some thicker skin, and act like adults.

 

Be offended all you want, that's your right. But being offended doesn't give you the right to restrict the right of the person, who's speech offends you. I'm sure you grasp this concept, unlike the limey who feels that people with views he doesn't like should only express them in certain places.

That's lunacy.

 

free speech doesn't mean people will not react negatively to your speech


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exactly, seems many like this person in the link below do not understand that free speech doesn't prevent people from reacting to that speech...


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/10/palin-fears-med/

"Palin told WMAL-AM that her criticism of Obama's associations, like those with 1960s radical Bill Ayers and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, should not be considered negative attacks. Rather, for reporters or columnists to suggest that it is going negative may constitute an attack that threatens a candidate's free speech rights under the Constitution, Palin said."

can you believe that, she thought a reporter exercising his free speech rights violated her free speech rights


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Ok, react in negatively all you want, you still have no right to restrict his views.

This is rocket science.

 

And I've got every right to call your wife a fat ugly slag.

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And I've got every right to call your wife a fat ugly slag.

 

sure the school does if he is harassing students, he can be asked to leave the premises

 

Just as I have the right to call you a little dicked idiot. Do you have a point?

 

If the school is on private property, the school is well within their right to have him leave. You still can't fundamentally prevent him from expressing his views. The supreme court has upheld the right to unpopular speech time and time again.

If you have the so- called morale high ground in this argument, why do you feel the need to restrict or silence opposing views?

 

As a Life long Catholic turned Cathnostic, Go Gay Dudes.

 

I do not want to restrict his views, I just do not want people like this in our schools harassing children, he can express his views elsewhere all he wants, I support his right to do so

I do not want the NBP or KKK in our schools harassing kids either, but I support their right to do so elsewhere even though I do not agree with either groups hate filled rhetoric

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Say what you want; but you screw people over... expect to get screwed yourself.

 

Who's restricting his views?

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Who's restricting his views?

 

Nobody that I know of. I was responding to another poster who was advocating that people express their views, in churches and not in the general public.

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Nobody that I know of. I was responding to another poster who was advocating that people express their views, in churches and not in the general public.

 

Ok, Johnny, explain how you're being screwed over by someone else's opinions. Spare me the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) mantra that your feelings need to be spared from being hurt, and come up with a logical explanation. I'll wait.

 

I was using that figuratively, for the most part. But now that you mention it, it is worth considering there are times where what is said can be as volatile as throwing a punch.

I'm generally saying that if you communicate certain things, then there are 'effects' which cannot be ignored. What is said, is not without consequences; and no one will be perfectly insulated from the same.

 

I don't get this whole argument going on, it's like people are purposely ignoring the salient facts and basic issue...which are quite simple, or they're just ignorant.

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I don't get this whole argument going on, it's like people are purposely ignoring the salient facts and basic issue...which are quite simple, or they're just ignorant.

 

That's all fine and dandy. You can have whatever opinion you want and are free to voice that opinion. That's the beauty of free speech. It's only when you start trying to use the law and violence to keep other people from voicing their opinions, as you have expressed the desire to do, that I have a problem with you.

You're not special and your opinions are not special. If you want to have the freedom to voice your nonsense then you have to accept that others have that same freedom.

 

But this campus priest was doing pretty much that, he was busy spreading his hate, which impacts the lives of young people on this campus. His right to free speech should have ended when he used it wrecklessly, calously and with the intent to harm others. Sure he can wrap it up as religion but really it's just bigotry.

 

He was using the law and violence to keep people from voicing their opinions? How? I didn't see that mentioned in the article.

Sticks and stones, my boy, sticks and stones...

You do not have a right to not be offended and you certainly do not have the right to use violence to keep certain arrangements of syllables from dribbling out of other people's pie holes.

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He was using the law and violence to keep people from voicing their opinions? How? I didn't see that mentioned in the article.

Sticks and stones, my boy, sticks and stones...

You do not have a right to not be offended and you certainly do not have the right to use violence to keep certain arrangements of syllables from dribbling out of other people's pie holes.

 

I'm an atheist who was making fun of the gay movement and its hostility to Catholicism.

 

LGBT people need to open their hearts and tolerate the beliefs of Roman Catholics.

 

A person doesn't have to be gay to be hostile towards the buffoons in the Vatican, just sane.

 

Academia doesn't care about people's First Amendment rights, though. That's why they're always getting sued for violating them.

 

"LGBT people" are overly sensitive when it comes to Christian theology, Catholicism in particular. Catholic theology does not single out homosexuals. Pretty much every normal person is a "sinner" in the eyes of Catholicism. It's nothing particular to gays or lesbians or whatever. For instance, lots of non-Catholics (and Catholics) have sex outside of wedlock. Catholic Priests would call this a "sin", but I don't feel offended by this, even though I've had sex outside of wedlock. The whole basis of Christianity is that everyone (except Jesus, who is perfect) is a sinner, so why do "LGBT people" get so bloody offended when their number is called?