I wondered when the Left would start spitting on veterans again

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    If you are referring to the Mav, well, let's just say I'm not his biggest fan. McCain isn't my favorite candidate. RIP. I don't think you'd ascribe what mr Trump said about him as a joke though. I'd say that I actually agree that being caught isn't the idea. I feel horrible for him for his having to endure what he did,. His courage as a POW can be something that we value. I do. I just don't think it made him a good candidate. For the Senate, or President.

    Now, get back to if Pete had cast aspersions on ms Waters, or the nice lady from GA. Would that, for you, still be a joke? Care to take a stab at that one?
     
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    Why would I care what a comedian says about anyone? Since when did comedy have rules to be nice to people?

    I swear, ever since Trump won, the snowflakes have become his supporters. LOL
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WMD is not why Bush invaded Iraq. WMD is but a part of why. But it is not THE why.

    Bush was sold the rantings of one Bill Clinton who assured us all that Saddam HAS WMD. Hillary Clinton assured us Saddam HAS WMD.

     
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    Sure, 'the why' is because of oil and American economic and military interest in the region, WMD was the excuse and I couldn't possible care what Bill or Hill thought, they're part of the exact same cabal of neoliberal warmongers and imperialists.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Funny. Just can't get yourself to say it can you? And that is the issue, really. The we can, but dare the rest of you not approach to intolerant liberal tyranny. You're just another example of it.

    So, you don't care, but yet you're here, worrying about what others write, and you're too unwilling to commit to a side or voice a strong opinion about something lest folks remember it for later use to remind you of that time, when you actually committed, or made a statement.

    Where ever will you go now?
     
  6. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Comedy can be in the hidden places in towns, Comedy can also be on national TV.

    When SNL broadcasts their hatred for a president, as does Jimmy Kimmel during the week, do you think they believe it does not matter? At least in the case of SNL it is one day. With Kimmel it is 5 days. With the View it is 5 days of hate for Trump.

    Say it was about Bill Clinton or Obama, Would you just watch and say nothing?
     
  7. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is how you can prove your own words. Show what oil was taken by America due to Bush telling oil firms to go after the oil?

    But you will fail to do this.
     
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    Most O&G extractors are international organization, Bush didn't send out American firms to siphon crude from Iraq, he did however ensure unfettered access and near permanent residence there to ensure that the taps kept flowing. Crude is also far from our only interest in the middle east, but the only relevant fact at all here is this: There were no WMD's, the Bush administration knew this, lied and sent Americans to die anyway. The rest is post-hoc story telling.
     
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    One thing real comedy is never ... and that's partisan. The real comic never assumes the personal politics of his audience, and so sledges both sides equally. Or stays out of politics altogether.

    Those playing to a particular politic are doing a different job, not comedy. Steven Crowder is one such (and quite a funny one at that). This guy is probably another.
     
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    Are you a veteran though? Or just military?
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I support none of those things, and I find it distasteful. I find it hilarious though that if Trump does it, his supporters are fine with it.
     
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    There is NO ONE alive as humorless as a) Progressives, and b) religious fundamentalists. Which makes sense, because there is little difference between the two.
     
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    I have the upmost respect for those that are called to serve their countries in times of war.

    But I don't have the same level of respect for those who chose to make a career out of it in time of peace. Too many people think it give them some special social status or cred. I have more respect for civilians who DO put their life on the line each day, like firefighters, cops etc. than some hicks who wore a uniform for 3 years on a base playing soldier and then DEMANDS respect for his "service".
     
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    Where do you find literature claiming we support such things done by Trump?
     
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    Exactly. It doesn't matter who the butt of the joke is. Obama, Hilary, Bernie, whoever.

    Bad Lip Reading do actual comedy (at the expense of politicians), because no one escapes. If only one side is mocked, you're engaged in propaganda, not comedy.
     
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    That's weird, very weird since the vast majority of people who are religious fundamentalists are also highly conservative. They're essentially one in the same.
     
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    Only those who serve in a Theatre of War are veterans. Everyone one else is simply 'military'. HUGE difference.
     
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    Today, as opposed to when i served, a lot of people join the military as a path to a hopeful excellent education. We had no educational benefits at all when i served. Those had concluded for the vets of Korea or WW2. The bonus cash is awesome. Taxpayers ought to learn the amounts of those bonus awards.

    As to the military only qualifying to be respected only in war zones, not in my case. I served and realize how it impacts on the troops plus the family. And how troops are subject to daily orders. And how the military conditions them to accept orders.
     
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    Exactly my point. Progressives are the most shrill conservatives you'll find, outside of Westboro Baptist Church. It makes not a jot of difference what they're conservative about, CONSERVATISM is CONSERVATISM. The flavour of the day is irrelevant.
     
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    You're so confused, it's almost confusing me.

    Progressives are as close to the opposite of conservative as any ideology can possibly be. Progressive conservatism sounds like some wonky ideology a freshman in a polisci course has concocted.
     
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    And yet many still demand respect for just wearing the uniform for a bit.
     
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    That is a unique definition. Seems you ruled millions of us out merely because an enemy and we were not in a hostile war. Veterans are former military, not former combatants.

    Say you speak of the Navy and the sailors inside the ship making it run. They by your definition are not vets. The airmen that repair those jets are also not vets. Why? They never were in combat.
     
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    Is anyone surprised by this? Their voters also made it clear that they are ok with our soldiers being attacked by people attempting to illegally enter our country.
     
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    By definition a progressive is never happy with the law he just created because in his mind, he must next change the law he promoted and do so to craft progressive ideology.

    A good example of progressive.

    1. The ACA law is progressive so the next progression is the single payer. This is why they will fight their own ACA to cause single payer to be the law. But that too can be changed once single payer is law.
     
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    When I exited the Army, i did not demand anything from anybody. Where did you come up with the idea we that served in the military made demands?
     

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